Re: Taming the mailing lists?

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It would appear that on Apr 30, - Edwin - did say:

> Hi Rodolfo,
> 
> (I think you just replied to the wrong person/message :) but
> anyway... )
<snip>
on Apr 29, Tom 'Needs A Hat' Mitchell did say:
> > > > This little change will help new arrivals and if short
> > > > will pose no pain on others.
on Apr 30, Rodolfo did say:
> > Not true. It's been discussed for *years*, and every time
> > the conclusion is that the headers provide guidance as to
> > which list is which, and that users can/should filter and
> > file using whatever mechanism they please, but that the
> > subject tags are not the panacea they look like. In short,
> > they're not in use because they're not useful. They *look*
> > useful, but every smaller list on which I participate has
> > eventually removed them as being more pain than gain.
on Apr 30, - Edwin - did say:
> Well, IMHO, and if we're talking about "new arrivals" here,
> don't you think it'd be easier for them to "scan" which
> subjects/messages belong to the Fedora List?
> 
> I'm sure not all beginners know how to filter messages. And,
> if they decided to use filtering then it'd be easier for them
> to set it up. (i.e. move all messages with [FC] on subject
> line to folder "foobar", etc.)

Your Right Edwin, Rodolfo replied to the quotes of what Tom said in my
reply... Doesn't bother me though, I agree with most of what he said.

Speaking of which, I don't know what filtering you use, but if it's
actually much easier to tell it to search the Subject: header for "[FC]"
than to search for a Reply-To: header with "fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx" in
it, then I suggest you shop for a better mail filter.

It's really not the lists fault if new arrivals don't yet know how to
filter messages. Besides which, if we add "[FC]" to the Subject: header
to make such manual/visual scanning slightly easier, we only prolong the
time that they will deny themselves the benefits of filtering, because
they 'think' it's harder to set up than to keep doing it manualy....

What would be useful would be some how-to links in the welcome message. 
(And possibly listed in a "useful-links" link added to the list management
data appendage in case they didn't know they wanted to save the welcome
message.) 

It would be good if the how-to links not only included beginner tutorials
for server based filters. But some suggested settings for {transitionally?}
using the filtering built into some "popular" mail clients including
<gag> outlook {for those stuck with a windows machine until they get
fedora working <wink>.} 

That is, Make it easy for the beginner to implement some form of
filtering rather than making it easier to avoid.

Well that's my "2 cents"*10^"nth degree" worth  anyway...


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