It would appear that on Apr 26, Daniel Stonier did say: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:44:22 -0400 (EDT), Joe(theWordy)Philbrook > <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Are there any functional browsers for fc1 that don't use mozilla's > > rendering engine? (preferably one that can render pages written for IE) > > Try Opera - it's the browser I use by default now and one of the older > browsers around and not based on the gecko engine. Despite that it's > probably just as innovative if not more so than moz. > > http://www.opera.com > > It's not open source, but you can download the full version for free > if you dont mind putting up with the ad banner in the top corner. Thanks Daniel for the info. Actually I'm glad to hear that Opera is available for FC1 <see below> But I'm even gladder to hear that it's not based on gecko. (actually I LIKE the gecko engine, but my whole point was that until/unless ALL browsers use the same exact standards, I wanted choices. I've used Opera (occasionally) on my Mandrake 9.1 installation before. I suppose I read too much into the first part of the browser identification part of the help->about menu choice I get there. -> Browser identification -> Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdk i686) Opera 7.11 [en] I'd have to agree that it is innovative, though in my case I was frustrated by it. I remember having a hard time learning how to avoid it's stealing part of my screen width for that pesky sidebar... I do not like my primary text window to ever have less than 100 percent of the available screen width. I can't stop web designers from using frames or tables to do that to my view of the text on their page, but when "my own software" does it to me, I have to concentrate real hard to stop an instant <Alt>+<F4> reflex... And I really like the Mozilla/firefox "type ahead" keyboard link indexing plus the ability to quickly change the displayed font size with <ctrl>+<+> & <ctrl>+<-> shortcuts. Still for occasional use I liked having opera installed. However, I wasn't aware I could get it for fedora. At least not in a package that I could get yum to update anyway... -> [root@localhost /]# yum info opera -> Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) -> Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base -> Server: Dag APT Repository -> Server: FreshRPMs -> Server: macromedia.mplug.org - Flash Plugin -> Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Released Updates -> Finding updated packages -> Downloading needed headers -> Looking in Available Packages: -> -> Looking in Installed Packages: -> -> [root@localhost /]# I then decided that even though fedora is my 1st experiment with having a continually updated system, I'd accept having a copy of opera that wasn't getting updated because I'd seldom use it. So I tried an quick rpmfind.net search which came up with 10 rpms (all for SuSE Linux?) At which point I found the rpm I had used for the MDK installation which when peeking at it's internal description via mc appeared to have redhat roots: -> The binaries was built on a RedHat 6.2 installation using gcc-2.95.3. However: -> [root@localhost dnlo]# rpm -i opera-7.11-20030515.1-static-qt.i386.rpm -> error: Failed dependencies: -> libXm.so.2 is needed by opera-7.11-20030515.1 -> [root@localhost dnlo]# Now I suppose I could have tried "yum install libXm.so.2" but I didn't... What did you have to do to get opera working on FC1??? -- | ? ? | | -=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... | <?> <?> But I just don't know. | ^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> | ? ?
