re: raise window on-click

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On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 21:31, Ryan Daly wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 20:15, Ben Steeves wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 21:09, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > > I can't find out how to make a mouse click (other than on the title bar)
> > > raise the window.  It "used to" happen in Shrike, but I can't remember
> > > if I did something in particular for that behaviour.  My "window
> > > preferences" are simply 'select on mouse-over'.  Is it still possible?
> > > 
> > > I've searched menus, mailing lists, google etc, but found nothing.
> > > 
> > > gnome 2.4.0, metacity 2.6.3-1.
> > 
> > Reporter, add thyself:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106847
> 
> This was an issue some time ago.  See, default Unix window manager
> behavior usually dictates that a click in the window itself does *not*
> raise the window.  However, this was the default behavior in Gnome for
> quite some time, until numerous people started complaining and filed a
> bug report to get the action changed to the way it should be.
> 
> To get the action of clicking in a window to raise it, one should use
> click-to-focus, not focus-follows-mouse.  Focus-follows-mouse mode now
> only raises the window when clicking the border.

Argh, what a terrible change from a usability point of view.  I know
this is common in old X window managers (is there really such thing as a
"default" UNIX window manager? :-), but just 'cos that's the way it was
always done doesn't make it right.  

At the very least it should be an option.  Click-to-focus isn't the same
behaviour because the click that focuses also raises.  I *hate* that.  I
want to have the rear window have focus without coming to the front, and
without fancy combinations of clicking and alt-tabbing around.  

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