Re: can't update mozilla with up2date

["M.Hockings" <veeshooter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ken Chamberlain wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 09:35, M.Hockins wrote:
>  
>
> > From: "M.Hockings" <veeshooter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: can't update mozilla with up2date
> > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:35:13 -0500
> > Reply-To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Ken Chamberlain wrote:
> >    
> >
> > > On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 14:32, Ben Stringer wrote:
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > > Galeon is a light-weight Gnome browser based on mozilla's rendering
> > > > > engine. You would be safe to remove it. Galeon was replaced by
> > > > >          
> > > Epiphany
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > > in Fedora Core 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > See the FC1 release notes for details -
> > > > >          
> > > /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-1
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > > Cheers, Ben
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > OK, thanks all.  I'll se what the release notes have to say on this
> > > >        
> > and
> >    
> >
> > > > give removing Galeon a whirl as I don't use it.
> > > > I guess I have it installed because my FC1 install is really an
> > > >        
> > upgrade
> >    
> >
> > > > install from RH9 which I presume had Galeon.  Can I expect to see more
> > > > hitches like this due to the upgrade rather than clean install?
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >        
> > > Yes... "up2date --show-orphans" should show you any upgrade leftovers
> > > (as well as non-FC1 extras).
> > >
> > > Ken Chamberlain
> > > University of Toronto 
> > >
> > >      
> > Thanks all,
> >
> > The rpm -e for galeon then allowed up2date to pull down all the updates 
> > just fine.
> >
> > I then ran the show-orphans and it lists a whole bunch of packages. 
> > Other than a couple of things that I've installed later (wine and j2kre 
> > 1.4) are all these things just taking up disk space?  If I remove them 
> > as well (rpm -e) will it cause me any problems?  That is, my FC1 install
> > is an upgrade from RH9, so I am presuming that these "extra" things are 
> > left-overs from RH9 that are no longer required for FC1 and could be 
> > removed.  The list of packages follows for those interested...
> >
> >    
> [snip]
> FC1 ISO image 1 contains the RELEASE-NOTES file which tells us what has
> been removed from FC1 since RHL 9, so if you (or I) had done a clean
> install we wouldn't need/have these packages.  With that reasoning I
> assumed it was safe to remove ("rpm -e" or "yum remove", your pick) if
> FC1 release notes said it hat been removed.  I also had a long list of
> orphans, not all of which I knew where they come from.  What I did was I
> mounted the FC1 ISO1 (rpms not SRPMS!) and cd'd to the dir with the
> release notes, then ran something like:
>
> for pkg in `up2date --show-orphans | cut -d'-' -f1`
> do
> grep $pkg RELEASE-NOTES
> done
>
> If the grepped lines say the rpm was removed/replaced, I removed it. 
> Note that the cut above is not perfect.  It cuts soup-devel-... as
> "soup" and the RELEASE-NOTES say soup has been replaced by libsoup.  No
> mention of "soup-devel".
>
> You didn't mention your upgrade history.  I upgraded from RHL 8 through
> RHL 9 and now to FC1.  Presumably I should have done a like procedure
> after upgrading to RHL 9, (but I didn't) so I presume I have garbage
> rpms left over from RHL 8.  You may be able to find older RELEASE-NOTES
> on redhat's web site...
>
>  
Thanks Ken,

I'll have a look a this tonight if I get a moment.  However, my eldest 
son gave me a new game (ut2003) for my birthday and I must admit that 
playing that is more interesting than making sure the machine is clean ;-) 

BTW, just for interest, I have the game running under Linux as it won't 
install on Windows (Win98, same machine, dual boot).

Mike