On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 09:35, M.Hockins wrote: > From: "M.Hockings" <veeshooter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: can't update mozilla with up2date > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:35:13 -0500 > Reply-To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > Ken Chamberlain wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 14:32, Ben Stringer wrote: > > > >>>Galeon is a light-weight Gnome browser based on mozilla's rendering > >>>engine. You would be safe to remove it. Galeon was replaced by > > > > Epiphany > > > >>>in Fedora Core 1. > >>> > >>>See the FC1 release notes for details - > > > > /usr/share/doc/fedora-release-1 > > > >>>Cheers, Ben > >>> > >>> > >> > >>OK, thanks all. I'll se what the release notes have to say on this > and > >>give removing Galeon a whirl as I don't use it. > >>I guess I have it installed because my FC1 install is really an > upgrade > >>install from RH9 which I presume had Galeon. Can I expect to see more > >>hitches like this due to the upgrade rather than clean install? > >> > >>Kind regards, > >> > >>Mike > > > > > > Yes... "up2date --show-orphans" should show you any upgrade leftovers > > (as well as non-FC1 extras). > > > > Ken Chamberlain > > University of Toronto > > > Thanks all, > > The rpm -e for galeon then allowed up2date to pull down all the updates > just fine. > > I then ran the show-orphans and it lists a whole bunch of packages. > Other than a couple of things that I've installed later (wine and j2kre > 1.4) are all these things just taking up disk space? If I remove them > as well (rpm -e) will it cause me any problems? That is, my FC1 install > is an upgrade from RH9, so I am presuming that these "extra" things are > left-overs from RH9 that are no longer required for FC1 and could be > removed. The list of packages follows for those interested... > [snip] FC1 ISO image 1 contains the RELEASE-NOTES file which tells us what has been removed from FC1 since RHL 9, so if you (or I) had done a clean install we wouldn't need/have these packages. With that reasoning I assumed it was safe to remove ("rpm -e" or "yum remove", your pick) if FC1 release notes said it hat been removed. I also had a long list of orphans, not all of which I knew where they come from. What I did was I mounted the FC1 ISO1 (rpms not SRPMS!) and cd'd to the dir with the release notes, then ran something like: for pkg in `up2date --show-orphans | cut -d'-' -f1` do grep $pkg RELEASE-NOTES done If the grepped lines say the rpm was removed/replaced, I removed it. Note that the cut above is not perfect. It cuts soup-devel-... as "soup" and the RELEASE-NOTES say soup has been replaced by libsoup. No mention of "soup-devel". You didn't mention your upgrade history. I upgraded from RHL 8 through RHL 9 and now to FC1. Presumably I should have done a like procedure after upgrading to RHL 9, (but I didn't) so I presume I have garbage rpms left over from RHL 8. You may be able to find older RELEASE-NOTES on redhat's web site... -- Ken Chamberlain University of Toronto phone:416-978-1582 email:ken.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxxxx