I'll keep this short because I'm getting tired of repeating myself... Preston Crawford said: > On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 08:43, William Hooper wrote: >> > If there's a bug in Apache will they fix it, though? And once again, >> > what about Samba, NFS, etc. And when I speak of these things I'm not >> > just talking about them being included, but also the accompanying >> little >> > widgets that help you manage them. >> >> I'm not sure how to put it any plainer, RTFWP: >> http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/ > > Okay, so it has Samba, NFS and Apache out of the gate, but as I've said > over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and > over again, it's about more than just "can I get an RPM". Updates are > crucial as well and... well... this is what it says. Allow me to give you a history lesson: http://updates.redhat.com/enterprise/2.1WS/en/os/SRPMS/ Please get past the mentality of "big bad Red Hat is out to get me". >> >> Who called you a leech? Use Fedora, contribute to the community. > > By definition, saying someone isn't contributing to the community unless > they buy RHEL or run Fedora beta is calling them a leech. So YOU called > me a leech. As I recall, you were the one that wanted to contribute. According to the archives, you said: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2003-December/msg02265.html " I'd gladly pay for a relatively stable for Fedora. But the only way I can pay is by being a beta tester? " And the answer is yes. If you would like to support Fedora you contribute to the community by beta testing the distro. I don't recall (and don't see in the archives) ever saying you "had" to run the beta distros, or "had" to buy RHEL. I most certainly did not call you a leech. -- William Hooper