On Mon, 29 May 2006 20:39:53 -0500 Ian Kester-Haney wrote:
> Well, from the flames you'd expect something to emerge.
> >From an end-user standpoint, you are all raving lunatics.
>
> Regressions, the graphics subsystem is a regression,
> back to the days of dos and basic video cad functionality.
> linux kernel development has switched to a very rapid pace of development
> internal ABIs and APIs are in a constant state of flux and
> you argue that no
> regressions are allowed
> you support the newest processor and chipset technology and yet
> graphics are text
> and X windows only?
> I don't suggest that vgacon and fbdev should be dropped, merely that a better
> alternative may be introduces into the -mm kernel. Using hacks and under
> appreciated drm and forcing the Corporate Vendors to work between
> X and the console is a retarded way of doing things.
>
> So let me offer a suggestion,
> Add an experimental 'accelfb' system to accompany the basic vgacon
> Start with the proper code and plug away, us lunatics can test it
> Merge new functionality while removing old crud.
> Accelfb should not be forced onto old hardware that can't support it
> Neither can the kernel rely on third parties to do all the heavy lifting
> xorg and the distro maintainers
>
> Backwards Compatibility
> As far as I can tell, the kernel user-land interface has been
> rapidly changing
> Why shouldn't new power be added to the linux kernel
> Do all features and drivers in the linux kernel fully maintain
> backwards compat.
>
> Linux will never take the desktop or even come close if you excuses
> for developers
> run the show. Looks like you guys are starting to resemble
> Microsoft, DOS had
> the same problems you are having now with regard to graphics and you
> are repeating the same mistakes that made windows and the mac os more
> dominant than *nix in the corporate and retail world.
>
> Grow up and get real, give hardware manufacurers real solid and stable
> interfaces
> so that they don't have to be in lock-step with the kernel.
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>
> FLAMES WELCOME
sounds more like Flames Invited.
Are you a hardware manufacturer? i.e., do you work for one or
represent one? If so, what would it take for you (your company/
your employer) to provide specs for a GPL-compatible-licensed
driver? or better yet of course, such a driver?
---
~Randy
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