I think a few people missed where *I* said this happened to our *phone* lines. But, nonetheless: Dave Ihnat: >> I'll second that, with a caveat. If it's absolutely, positively >> impossible to pull a new run, you *can* terminate with an 8P8C >> ("RJ45") male on one end of the repair and female on the other. >> >> I don't recommend it--it's burying an eventual potential problem in >> a difficult spot to get back to--usually two problems, as there's >> bee a junction at either end of the replaced cable segment--and will >> inevitably be forgotten until someone finds it and says, "What in >> 7734 were they thinking!". James McKenzie: > I will agree to this. There is a standard and most splices will not > meet them. You change the resistance and crossover talk resistance > characteristics of the run. 10MB might work, 100 MB might not. Then > you have to break plaster to do another run later. Better now when > the wall is open and you can do a pull right then after the damage is > done. Again, cables should NOT cross over plumbing where it will > need to be repaired later and should, if possible, be run in conduit, > even in house walls (there are Kevlar protectors that you can wrap > your cables in just in case someone decides to get drill happy later > and the location of the cables is 'unknown'.) Yes, I'd advocate proper replacement of LAN wiring. It's quite pernickety about being correct. But this was very old four-wire phone line, and no matter how far back I stripped the wires, one of the original pair was incredibly tarnished wire, that no amount of scraping, twisting, or even soldering, would make a good connection. So, I thought I'd try the obvious: Use the other pair. Same situation... It's not even twisted pair, it's just four wires in a jacket. And, naturally, the plumber had been and gone long before I found out what he'd done. It's long, would have been expensive to replace the lot (back then, the stuff was stupidly overpriced), which would be the only good option. It's all external wiring, and external copper water pipes, over the outside of a double brick wall, several metres up in the air, under the eaves. A right bastard to work on. Here, in Australia, as a few foreign electricians have expressed disbelief over, conduit is rarely used on *any* house wiring. About the only time you see conduit is over the top of wiring that passes between buildings, and even that's only done sometimes. Usually, it's just a galvanised iron guywire strung between buildings, turnbuckles at each end, with the electric wires strapped to it every couple of feet. No protection from the weather, or animals. If I ever sold the place, I'd simply yank out the old phone wire, and let someone put a new line in. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines