Re: F14 boot hangs on atd ...

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On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:40:50 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:19:09 +0000 (UTC) I Beartooth wrote:
> 
>> 	Anyway, I suspect the real trouble is misrecognition of the
>> monitor. That's an HP w2207h, at 1680x1050; but xrandr reports 800x480.

	That much seems now confirmed. Under ssh -Y, I ran yum update, 
then xrandr again, and something seems to have helped a little bit : 
among the technojabber below, note that 1024x768 is now present, though 
still neither right, nor close, nor used.

[root@BBB ~]# xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
0mm x 0mm
   1024x768       60.0*+   60.0  
   800x600        60.3     59.9     56.2  
   848x480        59.7  
   720x480        59.7  
   640x480        59.9     59.4  
S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[root@BBB ~]# 

-- but booting still hangs at whatever follows atd.

	This is with the KVM switch out of the loop, and the PC connected 
directly and alone to all three peripherals.

> Try booting run level 3 - that won't try to start the X server. (edit
> /etc/inittab and change the :5: on the last line to :3:).

	OK, did that, rebooted; grub found a non-PAE kernel (same 
numbers), which wasn't there before; I chose it, and got to a login 
prompt, which did at least work.

	But what good is running without X going to do me?? I'm 
electronically dependent on it, and would be even if *seeing* stuff 
weren't a main use of my computers.

	I logged in as my userid, ran startx, and got a fatal error.

	Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and also things called xorg.conf.d both 
in /etc and in /usr/share, it says "no drivers available" and also "no 
screens found."

> You could also look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see if there are
> any errors that make any sense, but if you are just using it as a
> server, maybe you don't need it starting up X anyway.

	I must have said it badly. The machine was designed and built as 
a server -- and the first thing I had done to it was change that. It's 
now just a PC, with two hard drives and very serious fans.

	But that's just a misunderstanding, with no blame to you nor 
anyone else. 

	As root via ssh -Y, I did "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|most"; what I 
got first included this : 

[    36.234] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Dec 18 $
[    36.265] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[    36.265] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[    36.265] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg$
[    36.325] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[    36.325] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[    36.325] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[    36.325] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[    36.325] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Sec$
        Using the first device section listed.
[    36.325] (**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
[    36.325] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Se$
        Using a default monitor configuration.
[    36.325] (**) Option "AIGLX" "on"
[    36.325] (==) Automatically adding devices
[    36.325] (==) Automatically enabling devices

	The next log page (after scrolling) referred me to 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration

 -- which appears to be an answer of sorts (bad, very bad; and the only 
one, afaik) to protests by several of us here on the list about the 
incomprehensible boot messages  concerning configuration in recent 
releases. It is *not* edifying -- but that's another thread ...

	I'll get this much off now, suppressing a rant, and go on looking 
through that log for what may look like clues.

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