On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:40:50 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:19:09 +0000 (UTC) I Beartooth wrote: > >> Anyway, I suspect the real trouble is misrecognition of the >> monitor. That's an HP w2207h, at 1680x1050; but xrandr reports 800x480. That much seems now confirmed. Under ssh -Y, I ran yum update, then xrandr again, and something seems to have helped a little bit : among the technojabber below, note that 1024x768 is now present, though still neither right, nor close, nor used. [root@BBB ~]# xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096 VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0*+ 60.0 800x600 60.3 59.9 56.2 848x480 59.7 720x480 59.7 640x480 59.9 59.4 S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [root@BBB ~]# -- but booting still hangs at whatever follows atd. This is with the KVM switch out of the loop, and the PC connected directly and alone to all three peripherals. > Try booting run level 3 - that won't try to start the X server. (edit > /etc/inittab and change the :5: on the last line to :3:). OK, did that, rebooted; grub found a non-PAE kernel (same numbers), which wasn't there before; I chose it, and got to a login prompt, which did at least work. But what good is running without X going to do me?? I'm electronically dependent on it, and would be even if *seeing* stuff weren't a main use of my computers. I logged in as my userid, ran startx, and got a fatal error. Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and also things called xorg.conf.d both in /etc and in /usr/share, it says "no drivers available" and also "no screens found." > You could also look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see if there are > any errors that make any sense, but if you are just using it as a > server, maybe you don't need it starting up X anyway. I must have said it badly. The machine was designed and built as a server -- and the first thing I had done to it was change that. It's now just a PC, with two hard drives and very serious fans. But that's just a misunderstanding, with no blame to you nor anyone else. As root via ssh -Y, I did "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|most"; what I got first included this : [ 36.234] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Dec 18 $ [ 36.265] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" [ 36.265] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 36.265] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg$ [ 36.325] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 36.325] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 36.325] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 36.325] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>" [ 36.325] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Sec$ Using the first device section listed. [ 36.325] (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" [ 36.325] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Se$ Using a default monitor configuration. [ 36.325] (**) Option "AIGLX" "on" [ 36.325] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 36.325] (==) Automatically enabling devices The next log page (after scrolling) referred me to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration -- which appears to be an answer of sorts (bad, very bad; and the only one, afaik) to protests by several of us here on the list about the incomprehensible boot messages concerning configuration in recent releases. It is *not* edifying -- but that's another thread ... I'll get this much off now, suppressing a rant, and go on looking through that log for what may look like clues. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines