On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, JD <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/15/2010 08:29 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Tom Horsley<horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:27:37 -0500 Dennis Gilmore wrote: >>>> >>>> the path to it being the >>>> default resides in more usage testing and bug fixing in fedora >>> The path to it being a viable option first has to go through >>> the process of the utter elimination of the foolish update-grub >>> preprocessor to construct the grub.cfg file from a million >>> bits and pieces. >>> >>> Grub originally cleaned lilo's clock primarily because you >>> didn't have to remember to run extra tools to make the changes >>> take effect. Now the standard usage for grub2 requires running >>> extra tools again. Does no one remember how many problems >>> that caused? >>> >>> One of the primary reasons it must not use a preprocessor >>> (particularly the way it is currently distributed) is that >>> you cannot actually configure everything you might need to >>> change. You can fall back on editing various files you >>> aren't supposed to edit, but the next grub2 update you >>> get will probably overwrite your changes. >>> >>> You can even edit the grub.cfg file if you want to, but the >>> next kernel update will overwrite your changes. >>> >>> Until the one and only place grub config information is >>> stored is the one grub.cfg file, grub2 is unacceptably >>> boneheaded and should not be the standard boot loader. >> You're being unfair to grub2! :) >> >> Unlike lilo, grub2-mkconfig doesn't re-write the MBR; a big >> difference. Also, in grub1, grubby edits "/boot/grub/grub.conf" when a >> new kernel is installed so grub1's behavior isn't that different from >> grub2's. > > I have not used grubby directly, but when a new kernel is installed, > the only annoying change is that the new kernel entry is on top > of all previous entries, AND the default boot number is bumped up by one > so that default boot is the same kernel you have been booting. > I find this acceptable and least intrusive of the two options (grub1 vs. > grub2). I don't follow. The default for both grub1 and grub2 is that the latest installed kernel becomes the default unless, for grub1 on Fedora, you change "UPDATEDEFAULT=yes" in "/etc/sysconfig/kernel", AFAIK. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines