Thanks for the info JB. I have that printed out and will try the two programs before I do anything else. The Fedora machine is my Hobby machine and does not affect my wife's business in any way so I can afford to take some time to research. However like you the root password getting hosed leads me to think that I did get hacked so I do not trust this install anymore. Immediately after the testing it is going away! Thanks for the Help! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines