O> Why do people always pick examples of features with easy user interface when the > fact with selinux is that the user interface is totally incomprehensible for the > ordinary home user. I for one disable selinux because I don't want to waste time The ordinary home user shouldn't even notice it is enabled, which has been the case for some time now. In the early days it did most definitely get in the way - just as early distros had permission problems that needed ironing out. Very occasionally you hit stuff in a home user environment - usually non Fedora packages. It's only when you are doing custom web and server stuff it gets noticable and you have to read the two pages or so of documentation on labelling cgi that its non-trivial and its rare it gets hard but some weird cases are fun (eg printing files from a cgi script). > with learning how to use it. And I have now used red hat/fedora since 2002 > without loosing one single e-mail or have suffered from any of the horrors that > some believe I am risking. Is that the "I talk on my mobile phone while driving but its ok as I've not killed anyone yet" ? argument. Alan -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines