Hi, >> Yes, frustrating, particularly when it's one fundamental thing after >> another, like ethernet detection, printing, and basic networking. > > Sure, but it works both ways: sometimes getting up-to-date software > from upstream fixes bugs that in a more "stable" distro you'd have to > wait much longer for. For example, I used to have to install the Yes, for the most part, I agree. However, I've set up FC13 on at least three desktops with varying processors, motherboards, ethernet, disks, etc, and have had problems that would have prevented someone with less experience than myself from being able to install it. On one of them, I had to rmmod the forcedeth and r8169 drivers, then modprobe the r8169 driver in order for it to properly link to the switch, all while the installer is running. On another, the installer would crash when making changes to the disk layout. I've used Fedora since it was Red Hat, and started with before 4.1, probably some twelve years ago. The first install was Yggdrasil Linux on 60 floppy disks on my 80386. I pretty much dropped Linux on the desktop entirely a number of years ago because I got frustrated with the lack of progress. By mentioning that I've been using Linux a really long time, I don't mean to imply I'm an expert, but I have quite a bit of experience, and don't plan on giving up on it ever. I mentioned the forcedeth example because the board was at least three years old, so it's not like it was some experimental driver where I'm the first person to use it. My staff uses Ubuntu on their desktop because "it just works", but I like RPM better, have been using Red Hat for ever, and believe that they have better availability to development, new applications, and wider support for new technologies. I'm sure that if I spent the time I could figure out where the problem is with ghostscript that is causing my printing problems, but that's not my job any longer. I'm just often very surprised when I see these "RHCE" guys that can't troubleshoot these types of problems, and wonder if they're the same clueless ones that are testing these before RH releases it. Thanks for listing to me rant for a bit. Regards, Alex technologies. I just wish -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
