---- Rick Sewill <rsewill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > >>>> Having said the above, if you suspect an acpi or apic problem, > >>>> the URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems > >>>> says, > >>>> "acpi=off is a big hammer, and if that works, narrowing down by trying > >>>> pci=noacpi instead may yield clues" > >>>> It also says, "nolapic and noapic are sometimes useful" > >>>> > > > > A quick update. I tried the acpi=no option and so far, so good. I have even brought it back into X windows and ran some yum updates to apply some stress. I'll leave it in this state until tomorrow evening just to make sure. Then I'll try the smaller hammers. > > > > Question showing my ignorance of what acpi is. If pci=noacpi works or does not work, what clues is that giving me? > > > > I didn't respond earlier because we've reached my level of ignorance too. > > If I were you, I might try to narrow the problem a little further. > > Eventually I would write a Bugzilla bug report telling the maintainers > the symptoms, what I had done, including things that didn't work as well > as things that seemed to work. > A followup on my previous thread. I worked through a number of the suggestions in the KernelCommonProblems. The two kernel options that kept the system from freezing were acpi=off and clocksource=jiffies. The system either froze or crashed with any other options, including no options. Here is the grub.conf I used to keep track of the experiments: title Fedora 13 (original) --crashed-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 acpi=off --works-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 acpi=off initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 pci=noacpi --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 pci=noacpi initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 nolapic --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 nolapic initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 noapic --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 noapic initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 nolapic_timer --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 nolapic_timer initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 nohz=off --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 nohz=off initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 highres=off --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 highres=off initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 nohz=off highres=off --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 nohz=off highres=off initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 clocksource=acpi_pm --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 clocksource=acpi_pm initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 nohz=off highres=off clocksource=acpi_pm --froze-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 nohz=off highres=off clocksource=acpi_pm initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img title Fedora 13 clocksource=jiffies --works-- (2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE ro root=/dev/mapper/vg00-root1 rd_LVM_LV=vg00/root1 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYTABLE=us nouveau.modeset=0 rdblacklist=nouveau debug nmi_watchdog=2 clocksource=jiffies initrd /initramfs-2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686.PAE.img Question. Anyone know what I capabilities I lose with acpi=off or clocksource=jiffies? Now off to bugzilla. Andrew Robinson -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines