On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > >> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:08:09 -0400 >> Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> I've never understood the appeal of preupgrade. >> >> It "feels" like it knows more about what's going on than the netinstall >> CD, for instance. But that's because a lot of the work is being done by a >> fully functioning system. When you reboot and let the install kernel take >> over, however, it's just as stripped-down as the netinstall CD. > > In the past, there have been many occasions where a newly-installed kernel > would upchuck and die on one of my machines, as a result of a bug in a > driver for some bit of hardware in it. Hasn't happened in a long time > (good), but it has happened in the past time. In one memorable stretch, > three consecutive kernel releases (not just Fedora erratas of the same > kernel release, but new kernel releases packaged for Fedora) would barf on > me, before the whatever bug was finally nuked, and I was finally able to > upgrade to the current kernel. > > The nice thing about a DVD install is that I'm booting the same kernel that > I'm going to install. It's nice to know, in advance, and very quickly, if > the kernel is going to barf on me. I'll grant you that. The blanked screen was a little worrisome for the four or five hours it took to complete the install. Lots of things can still go wrong with preupgrade. In this particular case, I was a little bit grabbing at straws anyway. >>> Seems to me it's going to take much longer to have every machine download >>> the individual packages, separately once for each machine. >> >> Have you considered setting up a local mirror? Theoretically (haven't >> actually done it myself, mind you), that's what I'd do if I had a lot of > > Err… Sucking down "Everything", which is I think what I'll need to do, is a > bit much for me to swallow. I think I like Tim's idea about using a local proxy. Not that you can't pick-and-choose when you mirror, but, as you say, setting up the mirror takes a bit of time. Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines