On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 10:35 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > Quoting g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > this has been discussed already on this tsl and is a problem. > > > > i do not recall if there was a work around solution. > > > > you do have alternative of pre-upgrade and online upgrade. even this is > > with problems, but does appear to have gotten better. > > > > so, unless your internet speed is to slow to make an online upgrade > > impractical, you may well be better off using upgrade. > > > Well, it's kinda difficult to do when the install you *want* to > upgrade won't boot. :-) If your current system won't boot, upgrading it may not be the best idea. It would depend on why it doesn't boot of course. If it's something a rescue disk can fix, do that before upgrading. Otherwise just reinstall, it'll be less work in the long run. [...] > > from what i have seen of fedora from early core days, this is how it > > has been, i there really is no practical way to make things different. > > > > > Yeah... I think I'm going to step back to F12 and see if that works > any better. F13 just isn't "ready for primtime" in my opinion. I suggest you review the mailing list archives from around 6 months ago, a year ago, 18 months ago etc., i.e. just after each successive version of Fedora is released, and you'll see people saying exactly the same thing. Every time someone says that Fedora isn't "ready for prime time". What they mean is that *they* have some problem. The way these problems get fixed is by people actually installing and using the system. If that model doesn't suit you, you might be better off with another distro with longer-term support. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines