Re: twin display f12

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox (Rex Dieter)
  2. Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox (Rex Dieter)
  3. Re: USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work
     anymore. (F13) (Tim)
  4. Why are 0 karma updates still being released? (Mike Fedyk)
  5. Re: screen res problem (Dale J. Chatham)
  6. Re: Ugly little hand [Solved] (Jonathan Ryshpan)
  7. fnfx trouble on Toshiba (Yogesh)
  8. Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
     (Stephen Gallagher)
  9. Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
     (Sam Varshavchik)
 10. Re: screen res problem (Craig White)
 11. Re: twin display f12 (Siddhesh Poyarekar)
 12. Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors? (Daniel B. Thurman)
 13. Re: Chromium by default? (Rahul Sundaram)
 14. Re: netinst images: What's the point? (Richard Shaw)
 15. Re: netinst images: What's the point? (Rahul Sundaram)
 16. Re: Chromium by default? (Genes MailLists)
 17. Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and
     larger one. (Richard Shaw)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:56:30 -0500
Subject: Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
Claude Jones wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote:
>> So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for
>> you.
>
> long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely listed
> as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing

OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :(

I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions.

-- Rex







---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:59:52 -0500
Subject: Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
Rex Dieter wrote:

> Claude Jones wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 01:30:45 pm Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> So, long-story-short, not sure why firefox isn't using these items for
>>> you.
>>
>> long-story-short, I looked at those files and Okular was definitely
>> listed as the relevant app - that's all, I just looked, changing nothing
>
> OK, I can reproduce the problem now. :(
>
> I'll bang on it awhile, and let you know when/if I find any solutions.

I take it back, I had a local pref set in
~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
that was getting in the way.  How about you?

-- Rex




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From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:56:41 +0930
Subject: Re: USB to parallel port printer adapter does not work anymore. (F13)
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:54 -0700, Mick M. wrote:
> Any help appreciated

Since you say "any help," if you cannot overcome this problem, or wish
to avoid similar problems in the future, I reckon that parallel to
network adaptors, rather than parallel to USB, are far more useful.

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From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:31:29 -0700
Subject: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to
stable.  There are more, I didn't look at every update.

Released straight to stable:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12

Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12

Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable
without people other than the packager testing it?



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From: "Dale J. Chatham" <dale@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:54:48 -0500
Subject: Re: screen res problem
<humor>

Uh, dude.  I'm an amateur astronomer and truly enjoy "exploring the stars". .

No need to insult us stargazers :)

</humor>

This is an individual not suited to have any interaction with humans

On 06/02/2010 06:05 PM, jack craig wrote:

 

Of course he is a "Superior Being".  Don't you realize this he is...

Dave Ocame, WS1ETI
Awards Chair
The SETILeague, Inc

Stony Creek Observatory
FN31og
-72.834 longitude
41.272 latitude
Member: The SETILeague, Inc. and,
The Society for Amateur Radio Astronomy (SARA) and,
The Planetary Society



   

I doubt his porcupine personality is suited for more than exploring the
stars.
Gawd forbid he actually encounters any real intelligence out there...

they keep those observatories way out in the sticks for more than one
reason! :-D

 

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Let us not make it a blank paper by construction."

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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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From: Jonathan Ryshpan <jonrysh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:01:58 -0700
Subject: Re: Ugly little hand [Solved]
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 19:55 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> The cursor that displays over desktop icons and links in Firefox, among
> other places -- a little black hand pointing up -- is really ugly.  (At
> least I think so.)  How can it be changed?
>         Appearance Preferences->Theme->Customize Theme
> allows changing the default cursor but not others.

I was confused because only one cursor-theme was installed, namely
dmz-cursor-theme (the default), which made gnome cursor control
       System->Preferences->Appearance->Customize Theme->Pointer
seem not to be good for anything.  As soon as I loaded some other
themes, namely:
       bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2.5.fc12.noarch
       moblin-cursor-theme-0.3.2.noarch
       oxygen-cursor-themes-4.4.3.1.fc13.1.noarch
this choice box became very useful.

> Same question for the whirling circle that displays when the system is
> busy.

This may be better too.  Haven't been able to check so far.

Thanks to all - jon






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From: Yogesh <yogeshp08@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Fedora Mailing List <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:05:24 -0400
Subject: fnfx trouble on Toshiba

Hello,

I have very recently migrated to Fedora from Windows. I have installed it on my Toshiba L505-S5971 laptop.

I installed fnfx after reading about it in some forum. That went fine.

Now with every boot I get the following message.

Starting fnfxd: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.33.5-112.fc13.i686/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/toshiba_acpi.ko): No such device

FnFX Daemon v0.3 (c) 2003, 2004 Timo Hoenig <thoenig@xxxxxxxxx>

fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys.

Please make sure that your kernel has enabled the Toshiba option in the ACPI section.

For more information read the documentation and/or http://fnfx.sf.net/index.php?section=doc#kernel.

Currently, the hotkeys are not working. Also, I guess, there is not control over the CPU fan. It is being used heavily and all the time. It makes noise.

Can someone help me with this? How should I go about this?

Thanks

-Yogesh

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:11:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
On 06/02/2010 08:31 PM, Mike Fedyk wrote:

Here is a sampling of the recent updates that have been pushed to
stable.  There are more, I didn't look at every update.

Released straight to stable:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gdb-7.0.1-47.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ClanLib-2.1.1-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fuse-convmvfs-0.2.5-1.fc12

Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12

Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable
without people other than the packager testing it?

I can't speak for the specific packages above, but I will sometimes push a package stable to Fedora N-1 that is identical to a package in Fedora N if the package in Fedora N got sufficient Karma. Maybe that's what happened here?



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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:17:20 -0400
Subject: Re: Why are 0 karma updates still being released?
Mike Fedyk writes:

Pushed to testing and then to stable a few days later with zero karma.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/bti-026-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vidalia-0.2.9-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EekBoek-2.00.02-1.fc12
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fsarchiver-0.6.10-1.fc12

Why are we still pushing to stable or submitting directly to stable
without people other than the packager testing it?

Maybe because nobody is aware that something's waiting for some karma out there?

I see that openssh was pushed to stable recently. I might've been willing to grab it from testing and give it whirl, but I'm not sure how I would've known about it. Whatever this errata fixed, it obviously didn't affect me, so I was not aware of the open bug, and a pending errata.

It's just a hunch, but here's what I think happens most of the time: someone files a bug, the maintainer picks it up, fixes the bug, pushes the package to testing.

So, you've really got just the bug reporter who's interested in the errata, and is even aware of a package. And most of the time it's an ordinary user who is not even aware of the underlying infrastructure. A canned message gets appended to the Bugzilla entry, saying something to the effect that a package was "pushed" somewhere. The bug reporter may not be aware of the fact that there's some kind of a mechanism to rate the pending update. The bug reporter is most likely waiting until he gets a popup from Packagekit, telling him that an update is ready.

I had someone file a bug against my small, obscure package. It was an enhancement. I finally got around to coding it, tarring it up (I'm my own upstream), then grabbing it with my maintainer hat, building it, and pushing it to testing.

So, how long should I wait for some karma? In the past, I've waited two weeks before requesting a push to stable. Is there a policy document somewhere that lays down the law, on this?



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:42:57 -0700
Subject: Re: screen res problem
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:54 -0500, Dale J. Chatham wrote:
> <humor>
>
> Uh, dude.  I'm an amateur astronomer and truly enjoy "exploring the
> stars". .
>
> No need to insult us stargazers :)
>
> </humor>
>
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name.

Craig


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh.poyarekar@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:46:15 +0530
Subject: Re: twin display f12
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:01 AM, pankaj singh <simranjanu@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> twin display on fedora 12
>
> Hello friend I have HP pavilion dv4 laptop and fedora 12 is installed on
> that. I would like to display the laptop screen on other monitor. I do not
> have NVIDIA graphics card.
> Can anybody help me setting the laptop display on the external monitor.

In most cases it is just the matter of plugging in the other monitor
and starting the gnome-display-properties program (System >
Preferences > Monitors or Screens) and "turning on" the other monitor
through it. Be sure that the physical monitor is turned on too.


--
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Daniel B. Thurman" <dant@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:26:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Removing/Cemsoring bad Fedora mirrors?
On 06/02/2010 03:20 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Daniel B. Thurman writes:
>
>> One would think that yum can detect "hangs" and
>> move on to the next mirror to pick up the slack,
>> but this is not the case, or so I am led to believe...
>
> It's been my consistent experience that yum waits about 30 seconds or
> so, before giving up and going to the next mirror.
>
Yes, that is true for a "behaving mirror", but in my case,
and on F12, it hangs a very long time (I went away for 30
minutes... came back, and no go!)

So... it was strange.

Seems that the hang in that mirror in question had
a firm grip on the connection and would not time out
at all OR yum thinks somehow the connection is still
live even though there is no activity whatsoever.  I
had to ^C the yum connection to break yum, blacklist
the offending mirror and try again. This time it worked.

Strange.





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:58:39 +0530
Subject: Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more
> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable
> browser.
>

I think that assertion is wrong.  Firefox has more users but more
importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using
Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even
smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the
number that actually counts.

Rahul



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:31:03 -0500
Subject: Re: netinst images: What's the point?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Joseph L. Casale
> <jcasale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>I'm not sure what's wrong, I just know it never asks me to initialize
>>>a network connection unless I specify "askmethod", then it does it in
>>>the non-graphical part of the setup.
>>
>> I just pulled the x86 iso down (only had x64) and whipped up a vm in esxi
>> w/ an emulated E1000 nic and it asked me to initialize the nic once I hit
>> the gui before the package selection step.
>>
>> What kind of nic do you have? Maybe a bug wrt your hardware only?
>
> I'll try booting the image in Virtualbox and see if it prompts me for nic init.

Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under
virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I
don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is
unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems
equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any
3rd party drivers.

One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful.

Thanks,
Richard



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:03:43 +0530
Subject: Re: netinst images: What's the point?
On 06/03/2010 09:01 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Well sure enough, I tried several different options in anaconda under
> virtualbox and it asked me to init my nic every time. At this point I
> don't know if it's a problem of using the livecd tools, which is
> unlikely, or that it doesn't see the nic on my netbook, which seems
> equally unlikely since I had F12 running on it quite well without any
> 3rd party drivers.
>
> One thing I do know, the error message could be far more useful.
>

Yeah.   File a bug report against Anaconda and followup on it.

Rahul




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Genes MailLists <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 00:05:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/02/2010 11:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more
>> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable
>> browser.
>>
>
> I think that assertion is wrong.  Firefox has more users but more
> importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using
> Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even
> smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the
> number that actually counts.
>
> Rahul


 Whilst above is true - the vast majority of linux users may very well
be or will be using chrome even if they are not the majority of chrome
users. Obviously because Linux is not the majority of desktop os' users
either - tho it is becoming the dominant server os (see top 500 list for
example how it is dominated by linux). So of course we are not the
dominant browser users either .. so what.

 Chrome is the up and comer and will overtake firefox in due time imho.
It is way, way, way better than firefox in a large number of important
ways. It is young still but in a short time has gained enormous
momentum. And it is not just windows users switching.

 However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a
while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than
google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I
recall).

 At present chrome is eating mostly IE users and safari users ... and
linux firefox users. I actually no longer know anyone using firefox on
linux (not saying there are none) but everyone I know using linux -
regardless of distro is using google-chrome and holding firefox
just-in-case something has stupidly checked for IE/FF.

 Everyone I know used to use firefox on linux - and that has changed ..
ok not 70 MM but quite a large number!

 We should be advancing chrome (or chromium) - it is in our best
interest - to work on either chromium or with google to include
google-chrome in fedora. Google has switched their desktops to linux or
mac (users choice) - now theres a few more chrome users on linux .. ;-)

 gene




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:06:45 -0500
Subject: Re: F13 installation: successful with small problem and larger one.
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM, fred smith
<fredex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi gang!
>
> I installed F13 on my eeepc 901 on Friday. Since I changed the partitioing
> scheme, I backed up the whole thing onto a USB HD first so I could restore
> my home directory afterwards (in fact I also kept dd images of /dev/sda
> and /dev/sdb in case I decided to put F12 back on it later.)
>
> first small problem:
> I wanted /dev/sda (4 gig SSD) to contain /boot and /. I wanted /dev/sdb
> (16gig SSD) to contain swap and /home. I DID NOT want LVM. I DID want
> encrypted filesystems. But when I tell Anaconda to partition without LVM
> and without VG, it disables encrypted partition option. Is there any
> way to regain that feature?

I'm a little late to the conversation but just to offer another
option. I actually did want LVM on my EEEPC 701. I only have a 4GB
main SSD as well and I also have a 4GB SD card it it. On my original
install of F12 I found the SSD to be rather slow so since I don't keep
anything important on it I decided to experiment with an LVM striped
volume. I end up wasting a little space for two reasons. One I need a
/boot that's not in LVM, and two, although both are considered 4GB
storage devices, they are not exactly the same size.

Anyway, I used gparted from System Rescue CD on a flash drive to setup
my partitions since anaconda can be rather limiting, especially prior
to the F13 version. Then I use the custom disk layout option and
manually set everything up.

I find a noticeable reduction in program load times with the LVM
stripe and if eithe drive goes bad, no problem. Like I said I don't
keep anything important on it.

Richard


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