Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

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On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 06:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:  
> That is pure BS. 

No, it is not "pure BS." What a disrespectful thing to say!

> If people don't know what a bittorrent is or a jigdo they will ignore
> it...

How do you know this? Have you performed usability tests of interfaces
with technical jargon users were unfamiliar with and gauged their
reactions? 

> as long as you don't make those the primary download methods.  As
> to those that know what they are...if those methods are available they
> should have a place in the "Get Fedora" page.  They should not have to
> hunt it down just because they are "intelligent".
> 
> http://software.opensuse.org/112/en   has a direct link to bittorrent
> http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/  has an obvious link to bittorent
> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download has "Alternative
> Downloads" that simply leads you to bittorrent.
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/ has a direct link to bottorrent
> http://www.slackware.com/getslack/  has a direct link to bittorrent
> http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=59  has a direct link to a torrent
> 
> I could go on.....

Fedora us supposed to lead, not follow. Copying other distros isn't what
we do.

> By your logic...anyone with knowledge of a torrent would go to the "get
> fedora" page, find there is no torrent for fedora and choose a different
> distro and everyone that visited the pages above would flock to fedora
> when they encountered the dreaded "bittorrent" links.

No. By my logic (and actually, I know having talked to many users who
used torrent as a method to download Fedora) not all torrent users grab
the torrent link for Fedora from the Fedora website. I have talked to
several torrent users in the past couple of days who told me they either
went directly to torrents.fedoraproject.org (sometimes via google,
sometimes via a link in a forum or IRC) or accessed the torrent via a
torrent tracker site.

> If you spent half as much time designing a decent download page as
> you've spent defending a poor decision you wouldn't be hearing grief.

I don't understand. Why don't you have any respect for the folks putting
together Fedora? Why do you have to be disrespectful to me? What does
making these terribly sarcastic and unfair comments get you? Do you
think you're superior to me? Do you think talking to me like this really
makes you better than me?

Do you realize how much work was put into the design? Do you have any
idea how many hours were spent on it?

http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/how-do-you-get-fedora/
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/getting-fedora-survey-results/
http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/getting-fedora-survey-result-discussion/
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Board_meeting_2009-08-27
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-August/msg00042.html
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Get.fpo

I think it would take you at least twice as long just to review that
material than I've spent on this thread.

~m



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