bruce wrote: > two questions.... > > can you point to articles where a user as root was using an IRC client > and got zombified?? > > and 2, are you guys saying that gnome in fedora 11/12 doesn't allow a > user to log in as the root user? > > thanks > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Richard Shaw: >> >>>> The system-config* tools will prompt for >>>> root authentication if necessary >>>> >> Tom Horsley: >> >>> Thousands and thousands of times in a row, in fact :-). >>> >> Not here. Once you've authenticated, that info is cached for a few >> minutes, and automatically renewed as you keep on doing things as root. >> And, if you are going to be idle for a while, you can manually extend >> the period without having to type in the password again (there's an icon >> in the task bar where you can renew/release it). >> >> >>> I'm still waiting for someone to point me to the web page >>> documenting the actual case histories of horrible >>> things that happened because a GUI app was running >>> as root. (NOT the cases where people did stupid things >>> in GUIs, I want the one that describes people doing >>> perfectly normal safe operations who had horrible >>> things go wrong simply because they were running >>> a gui as root). >>> >> Yeah, well, the *usual* thing that cause problems is - the user stays >> logged in as root, does all their work as root, all *their* files are >> owned by root, so they have to keep on logging in as root to use their >> files. They paint themselves into a corner, then use that to justify >> why they "need" to be root. >> >> If you want further ideas about what goes wrong, go back through the >> list and look at some of Gene's posts. He runs as root, and comes a >> cropper over it, often enough. >> >> Traditionally IRC (as root) users have their problems, it's just making >> it easy for them to become a zombie. >> >> -- >> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r >> 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 >> >> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I >> read messages from the public lists. >> >> >> >> -- >> users mailing list >> users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> Horrors! A root user *and* a top poster! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines