two questions.... can you point to articles where a user as root was using an IRC client and got zombified?? and 2, are you guys saying that gnome in fedora 11/12 doesn't allow a user to log in as the root user? thanks On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Richard Shaw: >>> The system-config* tools will prompt for >>> root authentication if necessary > > Tom Horsley: >> Thousands and thousands of times in a row, in fact :-). > > Not here. Once you've authenticated, that info is cached for a few > minutes, and automatically renewed as you keep on doing things as root. > And, if you are going to be idle for a while, you can manually extend > the period without having to type in the password again (there's an icon > in the task bar where you can renew/release it). > >> I'm still waiting for someone to point me to the web page >> documenting the actual case histories of horrible >> things that happened because a GUI app was running >> as root. (NOT the cases where people did stupid things >> in GUIs, I want the one that describes people doing >> perfectly normal safe operations who had horrible >> things go wrong simply because they were running >> a gui as root). > > Yeah, well, the *usual* thing that cause problems is - the user stays > logged in as root, does all their work as root, all *their* files are > owned by root, so they have to keep on logging in as root to use their > files. They paint themselves into a corner, then use that to justify > why they "need" to be root. > > If you want further ideas about what goes wrong, go back through the > list and look at some of Gene's posts. He runs as root, and comes a > cropper over it, often enough. > > Traditionally IRC (as root) users have their problems, it's just making > it easy for them to become a zombie. > > -- > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines