Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

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On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 21:36 +0100, psmith wrote:
> On 01/04/10 23:44, Craig White wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 17:35 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> >    
> >> Once upon a time, Craig White<craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx>  said:
> >>      
> >>> as far as I can tell, you seem to be the only one confused about Red
> >>> Hat/Fedora. Fedora is a completely separate entity with its own
> >>> management, resources, servers though clearly it was incubated using
> >>> resources supplied by Red Hat.
> >>>        
> >> While Fedora is a separate entity, Red Hat still provides a significant
> >> amount of resources (that Fedora can't live without).
> >>      
> > ----
> > While I might assume that to be true, I really don't know how what
> > resources and to the issue at hand, what influence it asserts to the
> > direction of Fedora. I do have faith that Fedora governance is
> > independent of Red Hat.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >    
> you are joking right? fedora is just a testing ground for redhat (think 
> selinux, pulseaudio, abrt etc etc), and the governance is full of 
> @redhat.com people
----
no, not joking and you picked some strange examples to try to make a
point.

NSA is primarily responsible for selinux. Fedora and Red Hat were early
adopters but clearly not the only distributions offering SELinux.

Pulseaudio seems to have been adopted by all of the distributions for
what appears to me to be obvious reasons. Obviously Lennart is being
paid by Red Hat.

Abrt is for reporting/debugging to help drive the reporting process. I
wonder if they actually would incorporate abrt into RHEL.

More to the issue, it's not that I am saying that Red Hat has no
influence over Fedora but I specifically said that I don't know what
influence it asserts. It probably would have helped the conversation if
you had some specific examples of where Red Hat is exerting control over
the development process and possibly indicating where this might be
interfering with the independent decision making processes of the Fedora
Project.

Craig


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