Re: Fedora and long threads - positive rather than negative!

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On 02/04/10 18:18, mike cloaked wrote:
> Occasionally there are long threads in the Fedora forums which start
> with flame baiting by one or other poster and quite often run for ages
> without reaching a sensible conclusion but generate bad feeling and
> not much else.
>
> As a long standing fedora user and tester (since FC1) I have to say
> that I have had the pleasure of being able to run an operating system
> at no cost on not only my own machines, but also those of relatives,
> and at work, which in general run both more securely as well as more
> efficiently than the alternative (at cost) operating systems.
>
> Sure there have been occasions when one or other package has failed to
> work as expected, and on occasion one or other machine has had some
> serious problems with graphics, but overall machines have run without
> issue over generations of Fedora releases, and other colleagues and
> friends who are hooked on proprietary OSes have expressed their
> admiration for how much more efficient workflow seems possible on my
> machines than their own.
>
> What kind of response do you get when running XP if you come across a
> problem - where do you go to get a bug fixed within a matter of days
> or perhaps even a few weeks when running XP or Vista? Is it even
> possible to get fast turn around and a response direct from a
> developer or packager (if the latter exists for those OSes)?
>
> Here we have forums where problems can be openly discussed and more
> often than not are fixed within a reasonable time frame (and with the
> vast army of people using Fedora in many and novel ways there will
> certainly be bugs found!). We have Bugzilla where responses are
> (mostly) open and interactive - sure some bugs are harder to fix than
> others - but in general the system does work - and we have many
> hundreds of excellent packages available to install almost
> instantaneously - no need to go and get a CD every time a new printer
> is added to the system (mostly!) - no need to run  CD when you buy a
> new camera to install specialist picture processing software - no need
> to run a CD to install graphics drivers - they are all just part of
> the system. Yes we do need to spend a little time looking up what to
> do with a new package, or to work around some problem or other - and
> occasionally quite a bit of time - but the hints and tips are public
> and shared around everyone.
>
> I recently installed F13 on an old laptop - and updated it this
> afternoon - in general it works very well indeed and we are still only
> just at the freeze stage with some bugs to be worked through before
> release -but hey, it works, and I could probably almost use it for
> production already even though it is in a pre-release phase.  Could
> this be said of proprietary OSes at a similar stage of development?
>
> I think all of us who use Fedora need to be aware of the fantastic
> service that so many people provide, often voluntarily, to package
> code, and develop code, and then fix code that we all download at no
> cost but our time. I for one am extremely grateful for the existence
> of Fedora and despite past issues with KDE major changes, Intel and
> Nvidia and ATI graphics support, major upgrades to Gnome and
> Openoffice, as well as to other packages, I am very pleased to have
> the privilege of running Fedora on all of my machines.  Yes I still
> have a need for a few of them to dual boot XP - For example I can only
> update my satnav/GPS unit via proprietary packages in Windows, and
> often syncing/backup of mobile phone data (cellphones) can only be
> done in Windows - but progress is being made. I recently received a
> .docx encrypted file that could not be opened under Fedora - but even
> that problem will be resolved with F13 as Openoffice 3.2 supports
> encrypted .docx files.
>
> I hope that the long whingeing threads do not make those who
> contribute so positively to the Fedora project feel negative - but
> remember the silent majority who are very happy with its progress.
>
> So all in all I am happy to thank all the fine people who make Fedora
> what it is - and hopefully it will continue to be both cutting edge
> and highly usable through F14 and beyond.
>
> Happy Easter
>
>    
+100

well said mike!
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