My wife got an obnoxious popup on her machine, couldn't get rid of it, and called me downstairs. I got rid of it in a trice -- and then dove heavily into a trap. She complained also of the cursor giving trouble -- I had noticed that it always appeared somewhat to the right of what it was actually pointing to. This time I thought to connect it with the fact that a little over an inch along the left edge of her monitor was plain black. Aha! thought I, the display needs adjusting. I tried a couple things, got nowhere, and tried system-config-display. That wasn't installed, but F12 offered to get it. I concurred. Now it boots only as far as the line about registering something to do with binaries and Windows. Sometimes the display gets very agitated at that point, as if it were being shaken hard. Then you can see that synchronizing with the external time source (and one other thing) has failed. We neither run nor connect to any M$ machines. I tried booting from the F12 respin medium with which I had upgraded from F11; it lacks an option to boot linux rescue (or I failed to find it), and I don't know how to futz with her hard drive as live user. I did have an old F10 medium at hand, and found that that did let me try a rescue; but once I had gotten to "chroot /mnt/sysimage," I couldn't find anything (including system-config-display) to use. I tried just letting it boot as far as it would, and getting into it with ssh; no joy. I tried letting the respin boot all the way, and using ssh from here -- "No route to host." Should I boot to rescue with F10, and try (either with the chroot or with ssh from my machine) to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to resemble our other machines?? She still has a square LCD screen, 1280x1024 afaik, made by ViewSonic -- and I have a wide one, 1680x1050, from HP. But I could tinker with drivers, for instance ... Is there some other better way?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines