2009/12/14 Mikkel <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On 12/14/2009 11:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has finally >> reached the quitting point. You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that would >> force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go pound sand. > Do you think maybe the way you post, and the hassles of trying to > work with you to try and solve problems, might have something to do > with your posts being low priority on the list? Actually I quite like most of Gene's output - he's cranky and he likes guns - what's not to like? What stopped me from digging into this particular post was: 1) I can't help on this issue (and I've been a bit busy lately). 2) The word "you" cropping up repeatedly. I think there's a misconception here that addressing fedora-list is addressing the people who "make" Fedora. That's not necessarily the case, and by using the word "you" the blame is implicitly being transferred (probably through frustration or some kind of monthly cycle ;o) to "everyone who isn't called Gene Heskett", when probably a large proportion of list members have no more input into the source of Gene's frustration than he does himself. I don't think most people like being blamed for something that isn't their problem, which doesn't incline them to help out. I don't speak for any kind of majority, but my contribution to "making" Fedora is pretty much zilch. I file the occasional bug, I help out other users where I can, but I'm not currently a Fedora Developer or Fedora Packager. However, I do consider myself part of the greater Fedora Community and I exclusively use Fedora at work and at home (well, at work I have RHEL as well, but it's not my choice on the servers ;o) Fedora is very definitely a Community and perhaps the best way to address this would have been: # I have this problem - can anyone help? # I still have this problem, is there any more information I can provide? # I still have this problem, how do I report it to people that *can* help? Even if the end result is that no help is forthcoming, that's unfortunately the way the cookie crumbles - you get the guarantees you pay for... Ranting about it unfortunately doesn't go anywhere. Also, I thought Linux Mint was a nice niche distro. It's not Fedora and I didn't feel I could dig into it as much as I do with Fedora, but it worked out of the box on an EEEPC I used to have at a time when F8 and F9 wouldn't - so it has it's place - just not in my heart. At least it's from the right side of the Atlantic ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
