On 10/10/2009 8:03 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 19:21 -0400, David wrote: >> On 10/10/2009 6:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote: >>>> As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora >>>> configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is >>>> written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other, >>>> Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You >>>> will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by >>>> the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be >>>> available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME >>>> Desktop. >>> >>> I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that "system >>> applications" need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is >>> installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I >>> don't expect it to be in the current state of the art. >> >> >> One more time. The GTK2 that is used to write the system applications is >> GTK2. A programing language platform. No more and no less. > > The very first sentence on http://www.gtk.org/ is: "GTK+ is a highly > usable, feature rich toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces > which boasts cross platform compatibility and an easy to use API." > > OK, so my question is *not*, as you seem to think, "why do I have to use > this when I prefer KDE?", but "why do system applications need this if > they don't have a graphical user interface?". > > [...] > >> All so that you can have a GTK free install without any >> of 'that nasty GNOME crap' installed. > > You seem to have gotten it into your head that I have some problem with > Gnome. If you look back at this thread I think you'll realize that this > is entirely imaginary. Marc Wilson said it much better than I have. The applications have to be written in 'something'. These happen to be written in GTK. And my point was that that does not make Fedora a GNOME distribution. It appears to me that Fedora *chooses* to be a GNOME Desktop default distro. As for your personal feeling about GNOME? Your business. Your choice. -- David
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