A sincere thanks to all who took the time to reply on my previous queries. Do not get me wrong, I really am 95% satisfied with F11. And that's after doing a F9 to F8 'upgrade', and rejecting altogether F10. I'm really up to getting F11 (x86_64) both at work and at home. And so far so good, but... Here's what's up with that thing called NetworkManager. When I right-click on the NetworkManager applet icon and edit the connections (eth0 and eth1) all parameters are A-1 OK. eth0 through DHCP, eth1 static. But no matter what I do, the NetworkManager craplet will initialize eth0 to 192.168.10.110/24 and will do nothing with eth1. It will also initialize resolv.conf to: cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager domain Trendnet search Trendnet nameserver 192.168.10.1 I reckon this is partly generated by the dchp client, although it does not say so in the file. 'Trendnet' is certainly the making of dhcp client, as well as the nameserver IP. Obviously these are not right for our network. Where does it get that IP as well as the .110 IP ? And of course, it did not save the previous resolv.conf. Fortunately I have the settings in the previous F8 system still on disk so I don't have to bug the IT dept. And worst, that's after a reboot (after trying to restart the NetworkManager several times and verifying the configuration). Yes, the famous MS Windows style: reboot. So now I have to make a script to initialize the LAN interfaces. Is there a way to disable the NetworkManager stuff and come back to what it used to be on Fedora 8 ? I need to switch off/on the network interfaces on a periodic basis. The following used to work nicely in F8: /etc/init.d/network start /etc/init.d/network stop The bad thing is that it is seemingly involved to disinfect (wording might be too strong) the F11 system from the NetworkManager because it seemingly signalizes other applications about network availability, or make available network status for other apps to consult. Firefox and claws-mail for instance seems to rely on NM histrionics to put themselves in offline or online modes. Starting the network interfaces manually then would not change this status if the currently useless Manager (but certainly overpaid and overrated!) does not approve. But I could live with that. I could toggle Firefox and claws-mail manually. That's the extent to which I'd like to keep F11 at work. Setting the ip manually works, but The Manager might come by and change that at any time it deems worthed to do so. It'll also overwrite the resolv.conf file with the following when it stops. (I guess it is some final menace of some sort ;-) # No nameservers found; try putting DNS servers into your # ifcfg files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts like so: # # DNS1=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx # DNS2=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx # DOMAIN=lab.foo.com bar.foo.com So I can '/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop' it. Is there then a --force switch to yell at NM to do its thing right from the command line ? Or some other way to make it do what it claims (eg. configuration settings in the applet) it'll do ? I do not mind making a script to kill it and restart it every time I need to, although I've already did 'restart' with /etc/init/d/NetworkManager and that did not solve anything. If there are any file to erase, DBUS pipe and tubes stuff to clean, a config to automatically regenerate, I do not mind: I'll put that in a script. Anyone making it w/o the NetworkManager ? Thanks for any suggestions/advice/hints. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines