On Monday 31 August 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Skype has a signup that vz doesn't block, or cannot block. I have >> attempted to sign up for an account with ekiga on at least 4 occasions >> now, also twinkle, and the confirming email which must be replied to >> never arrives for any of those services, which prevents a vz sub (only >> game in town) from getting to first base. Which is another reason skype >> has a liplock on this. Me, I'd druther sue vz for not being a common >> carrier, which they _claim_ to be. Yeah, sure they are.... > >Are you saying that vz blocks you from using gmail or yahoo mail so that >you can't even use those to sign up for an account with ekiga? Yes. No proof of course other than none of the emails confirming the registration and which must be replied to have never been rx'd here. All this took place before I was able to make use of two other accounts I now use, one at gmail and one at the tv station. Ekiga in particular makes it almost impossible to even attempt to re- register, so I had to be pretty creative to get ekiga to accept a 2nd and 3rd attempt. Twinkle I gave up on after the 2nd try. vz, in their attempts to control spam, has decided that these mailing lists that have so much traffic have to be spam, and has refused to accept 2 or 3 of them, forcing majordomo to unsub me, so I have had to switch to gmail for some lists. Call tech support with smoke coming out of both ears, escalate the call 2 or 3 times to get to someone who might have a quarter, and they'll of course deny it. To do otherwise confirms they are controlling traffic, and that they sleep with M$. Like I've said, I sure wish there was another game in town for that last 30 miles to here, but in WV, it will never happen. The latest insult is that news services, like cnn or fauxnews or the bbc, are all being throttled, so if I want to watch a story without a bunch of 20 second pauses in a 3 minute package, I'll pause it for a minute or 5 & go check email, so it is all downloaded when I unpause it. msnbc of course doesn't suffer from that throttling cuz its M$. File fetching still has mostly full speed as those speeds are usually reported by the app pulling the file. And so far, torrents are pretty good if there are enough seeders. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Q: What's buried in Grant's tomb? A: A corpse. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines