On Monday 31 August 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 21:33 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Sorry Patrick, but our govco snoops have been bragging they have skype >> decoded now for about 2 years. > >If by "decoded" you mean "payload encryption broken routinely without >the use of keyloggers or Trojans", do you have a reference? > >> And I assume skype has been changing things too, but whatever one >> group can do, another group can undo. Its just the >> nature of the internet for that to happen. > >That's a seductive generalization, but it *is* a generalization. It's >meaningless without more specificity. For example, crypto is entirely >based on one group doing something which another group cannot undo with >any realistic set of resources. Yes, crypto can be poorly implemented >(which is a big argument in favour of open source) but it can also be >extremely secure if done right. Is it done right in Skype? I don't know, >but to date I know of no evidence to suggest it has problems. I'd be >interested to hear if you have any. > >poc Search on /. for skype & spooks. Or if you are really confident, use it to plan blowing something up on the 9/11/01 anniversary but plan to have your plans interrupted. Also, there is another attack that was discussed just in the last 36 hours or so, where a compromised machine makes an mp3 out of your conversation, and then mails it someplace. Presumably a winderz box I imagine. Hopefully us linux folks have enough sense to not let that happen. I used skype a few times when I was in upstate MI for a while, mainly cuz the telco's up there think long distance is worth 41 cents a damned minute, just to call a business 7 miles down the road. Those I could put on expenses, but by the time I bought a card, and dialed about 30 damned numbers without a typu, it simply wasn't worth it. Everybody up there has a cellphone, so I bought the nationwide plan when it became obvious that was the only way to have working communications. The echos, dropouts and lags in skype were so bad it was impossible to carry on an intelligent conversation with anyone. Now I'm glad, and echelon gets to listen to my drivel in what passes for cellphone hifi. And I expect they _do_ listen to what I say, or write as my presence on another mailing list, where there is only one rule, and that is that there are not any rules. That right there should give anyone who wants to, enough info to find that list. We're a bunch of miss-fits and we have a ball at times tweaking the establishments collective noses. We have realized that old saying is true, that when you need the police in seconds, they are just minutes away. Like the sign on Chuck Norris's front porch says, we don't dial 911. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Blame Saint Andreas -- it's all his fault. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
