On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Robin Laing <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney <mhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> Tom Horsley wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500 >>>> Mark Haney wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up >>>>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no >>>>> purpose. >>>> >>>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with >>>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like >>>> function while not actually working with anything that previously >>>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels. >>>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no >>>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality >>>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner. >>>> >>> No kidding. Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on >>> another laptop (mine). It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM. A >>> fresh install. I booted into it after the install (and setting up my >>> network info (wired). Logged in as myself. >> >> >> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no >> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on >> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more >> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working. >> >> So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and >> NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have >> provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people >> needlessly disrespect their work. >> >> > > I think the issue comes when you are not using DHCP as many do. If over the > years, you have used setup scripts the NM default approach is a problem. > > On this fresh install I had to setup my network info in NM at first. Then I > moved to network services and turned off NM. A two step approach to get > back to the Old way. > > As for network info, I found I had to edit the /etc/sysconfig/networking > manually because system-config-network kept corrupting the settings. I need > to do some testing and file a bug report. On my desktop, I have DHCP available, but i use a static IP. All I did was use sytem-config-network, and check 'start on boot' and uncheck 'controlled by NM'. Does this not work for you guys? -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
