Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500 > Mark Haney wrote: > >> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up >> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no >> purpose. > > It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with > some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like > function while not actually working with anything that previously > used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels. > And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no > documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality > then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner. > No kidding. Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on another laptop (mine). It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM. A fresh install. I booted into it after the install (and setting up my network info (wired). Logged in as myself. No network. No hint of a network. Loopback was up. Nothing more. With a static IP. Explain to me how this is 'better'? Explain to the average, first time user how to get this working? Determine how many n00bs are gonna want to fool with Fedora any more when a BASIC FUNCTION like networking, does NOT work out of the box. It's disgusting. Period. No, this isn't whining, this is simply a case of failed functionality. -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines