On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 09:49 -0700, stan wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > This is not what Fedora once was meat to be. > > Please, let's have some perspective here. Fedora becomes > what the people doing the work want Fedora to become. No, Fedora became what people made it. My impression is, Fedora once had been a nice "leading edge distro", now it's essentially a public testing ground, containing the "beyond bleeding edge". > And > the users of Fedora know what Fedora is meant to be because > they use it every day. I am using Fedora every day, ever since Fedora exists. > What you and others are actually saying is you want Fedora > to be something other than it is, Wrong, I want Fedora to get back on track, to where it once used to be: A distro, which was suitable for everyday end-user use and not one, in which many key component packages are simply "too immature". > but you don't want to do > the work to get it there. In other words, you want to > direct the work of those who do the work. Hey, you have a > great future in management waiting for you. :-) Pardon, but you probably can relate why I find your tone offensive. > Now, it is good that you care enough about Fedora to offer > suggestions, but if you don't help implement those > suggestions you shouldn't be offended or angry if they > aren't followed. What do you want me to do? To get involved into SELinux, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, gnome-session, evolution, ... just to mention a few of the packages which I consider to be prematurely integrated into Fedora? Ralf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines