On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 04:10 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > So I entered a bugzilla report on this issue and did a bit of background > > research. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473446 The > > developer's response ? They tagged the bug as UNFIXABLE. > > Because that's what it is, the bug is in a proprietary driver we do not have > the source for, there's no way we can fix anything in it. So why are the developers writing software for hardware that doesn't have a working driver ? Does that sound production ready ? And it isn't just that folderview runs slow. In KDE4.1.3, it totally freezes my UI. > Next time buy hardware with Free (as in speech) drivers. And which laptop available high performance video card would that be ? > > Do they create a mini application to help the end user tune their video > > card to work properly ? Nope. > > How can we do this when the hardware is undocumented and the driver is > proprietary? The KDE FAQ states a few options that users have to tune their xorg.conf files. A simple app that added or removed those options from a GUI would be greatly appreciated. So would mention of this issue in the F10 Release Notes. > > Do they state that they have contacted NVidia and the issue is being > > sorted out ? Nope. > > Why should we? It's up to you to contact NVidia (which is what we told you > to do). Again, is this a PRODUCTION READY strategy ? > > Do they provide tips or a different version of folderview for people who > > have video cards that don't support acceleration ? Nope. > > We provide a version of folderview which works with any graphics card with > working drivers. If the driver is buggy, the driver needs to be fixed, not > the folder view. Leaving the end user screwed. > And it doesn't really use that much in terms of acceleration, as far as I > know it's just basic XRender, not even OpenGL. > > And there haven't actually been _any_ changes to the folderview applet > between KDE 4.1.2 and 4.1.3, your regression must come from somewhere else > (different version of the NVidia driver maybe?). I'm an end user. Should I have to look at code and regression stuff to figure out what changed as to why folderview doesn't work. > > The user is left to figure things out for themselves. Go manually play > > around with your xorg.conf file. Which has been the norm for nvidia > > users since RH8 days, except that livna, now RPMFusion finally came to > > the rescue recently. > > That's because proprietary drivers are not, have never been and will never > be supported in Fedora. Yeah, but Fedora is responsible for shipping PRODUCTION READY stuff. And if folderview doesn't work with nvidia hardware, I'd hardly call that PRODUCTION READY. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines