On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Richard England <rlengland@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > When a release does _not_ work, file a bug report, ask for assistance and if > you can't get it to function, find a work around or, if you must, move to > another (for you) more stable release of Fedora or another release > altogether. The big win is finding a way to get more people doing pre-release testing as early in the process as possible, keeping them testing, and trying to identify regressions which appear late in the cycle. Having everyone just show up to test (and review) the last preview release isos isn't really all that valuable in terms of impacting the quality of the release. Here's what I know. I participated in the pre-release testing and Fedora 10 works as well enough for me on the systems I care about doing the things I care about. I make it a point to test my workloads and my hardware. I do not assume that the release engineering testing covers my hardware specifically or my usage patterns specifically. Fedora releases are community efforts, testing them is a community effort. If individuals care enough about the quality of Fedora releases to stand up and make noise about it post release, then to me they should have cared enough to be part of the pre-release testing. So how do we capture that passion..early enough..for it to really make a difference? The question how do we get those people who legitimately care about quality regressions to participate in the pre-release testing? Maybe I should do a historical analysis of the participants in this list, identify the people who have been vocal about quality issues and publicly invite specific individuals to join the testing process in the run up to F11..then track their participation. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines