On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:33:17 +0000, g wrote: >> I *think* I've seen a claim somewhere that you can use it with KDE > > that was noted on one of pages. > >> One drawback, so far, is that I haven't found out how to put together a >> whole list of things to remove and then tell it to do so, all in one >> fell swoop. > > that is what i liked about md, check away what you do not want, then > dump it. The package kit shows so many items under "Other" and "Programming" that I told it "apply" without them; ran yum update; and came back. Moderately bad news : the nice info under other rubrics, particularly the required-by tab, are entirely lacking in these. There is no way I can find for anybody who doesn't already know to tell what can be cut away safely and what not, except by trial and disaster. I did notice a speech synthesis app, and tried removing that; it told me that would cost me four other such apps, which suited me fine. (I'm pretty sure an older package kit *had* told me they were removable; if some would-be clever developer has *removed* this function, it has to be the bone-headedest decision I've seen in Fedora.) If I could only somehow get pirut, it would help a lot. Yum doesn't have any sort of force option, afaict; I thought maybe pirut'd be in livna. I installed the F9 livna rpm, and tried "yum install pirut," but it still only told me I already had packagekit. What's so wrong with having both?? One of my PCs does; but I can't remember how I got it there ... [LATER] Having installed Opera on the EeePC, I managed to google up a pirut noarch rpm at rpmfind; downloaded it; tried to -ivh it; got a dependency for "comps-extras"; told yum to install that, which it did; tried rpm -ivh again -- and got a thing I haven't seen before : a notice that it *conflicts* with some *unnamed* file in packagekit. Other people online claim to have removed package kit; I'm going to try. At this point, I'm down to 50.2% file usage, according to baobab, and can start emulating amorous porcupines while I copy data of my own back in. But I'd a lot rather pare that down somewhere well below 50%, and then try. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 7, 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list