On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:58:18 +0000, Beartooth wrote: [...] > If I could only somehow get pirut, it would help a lot. Yum > doesn't have any sort of force option, afaict; I thought maybe pirut'd > be in livna. I installed the F9 livna rpm, and tried "yum install > pirut," but it still only told me I already had packagekit. > > What's so wrong with having both?? One of my PCs does; but I > can't remember how I got it there ... > > [LATER] Having installed Opera on the EeePC, I managed to google > up a pirut noarch rpm at rpmfind; downloaded it; tried to -ivh it; got a > dependency for "comps-extras"; told yum to install that, which it did; > tried rpm -ivh again -- and got a thing I haven't seen before : a notice > that it *conflicts* with some *unnamed* file in packagekit. > > Other people online claim to have removed package kit; I'm going > to try. Well, I don't have both. I did try "yum remove gnome-packagekit," and it not only did it, but took nothing else with it. So I ran rpm -ivh again, and this time pirut did install. What's more, it launches, runs, and works. I have both added and removed things. > At this point, I'm down to 50.2% file usage, according to baobab, > and can start emulating amorous porcupines while I copy data of my own > back in. But I'd a lot rather pare that down somewhere well below 50%, > and then try. Installing pirut instead of packagekit cut me back from 50.2% of the 6.4 GB which baobab can see of my nominal 8 GB, to 50% even. Iow, pirut is about 100 MB smaller than packagekit -- hence better for this hardware in that way at least. As a precaution, once pirut completes doing my changes (almost all removals) from among its first two categories (Desktop Environments and Applications), I'll do another yum update, and then a reboot. (I once destroyed an install of F8 on this machine by getting too eager for too long with pirut.) [Later] Even though the little notifier (which I have tried to remove from the panel, unsuccessfully till I removed packagekit from the machine) showed hundreds of updates waiting, yum updated propoposed only to replace pirut with packagekit. I told it NO, in thunder. I'll have to either find a way to exclude pirut from updates, or learn to use it to do them, or both, till I get ready to have packagekit back -- id est, till I'm done pruning. Dammitall. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 7, 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines