Craig White wrote:
You don't seem to care that things like NetworkManager and PulseAudio
are trying to solve userland device control over things that have on
Linux been traditionally root controlled devices/daemons.
Both NetworkManager and PulseAudio are not perfect - in fact, far from
perfect but the need to deliver a user featured desktop system requires
separation of super user and regular user and you can opt out of those
efforts and in fact encourage others to do so but those efforts are
counter productive to the overall goals.
I would be much more open-minded if there was more "support", as it
were, when the new technologies don't work. So far I've been told it's
my fault, that it works for everyone else, that the bug was opened to
the wrong package, I didn't provide enough information... basically
discouraged at every turn from reporting and trying to fix my issue with
PulseAudio upstream. If I'd been a new user, I'd be screwed. As it is,
I'm just annoyed, and damn certain not to take it any further - I fixed
the problem, I reported the problem here, I reported the problem on
bugzilla... I'm not going to bust my rear any further.
I will admit that I'm an old fart when it comes to system
administration, and I believe that Fedora is trying a bit too hard to be
friendly to new users to the point where the veterans are being left
with a whole bunch of software layers that they neither need nor want,
with no way to turn them off on install if they so choose.
I would be content if an expert mode was offered (one is) that allowed
one to turn off most of the desktop optimizations like NetworkManager
and PulseAudio and left you with a fairly barebones system that you
could configure how you wanted without having to fight with things
telling you how to do things.
--Russell
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