On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:22:30 -0700 Russell Miller <duskglow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If no one's going to take people seriously when they say they are having > problems with PulseAudio, and people are just going to force PulseAudio > down peoples' throats when it's not working while insisting the problems > are all in the head of the user, well, there's really nothing more to be > said. Yea, that's the response to most NetworkManager bugs as well (only its usually not the users fault with NetworkManager, it is the fault of every single piece of software on the system that accesses the network, software which never had any problems with the network service :-). Fortunately, as long as "yum erase pulseaudio" gets alsa back the way it was, I'm OK. It is just that, given the history of "improvements" I wouldn't be surprised to discover fedora 11 embeds pulseaudio in the kernel or something where a mere yum erase can't remove it. But what I'm still left wondering is the fundamental question: "What the devil is the problem people imagine exists which they imagine pulseaudio solves?". I can't even get my brain wrapped around the motivation for pulseaudio. Simply because it is possible? Anyway, I'll keep my stick in the mud web page up to date with everything I find about how to disable all the helpful improvements: http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/stick.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list