Jeff Spaleta: >> You continue to confuse yourself. NM does most of what it does >> automatically. William Case: > In computers, nothing does most of what it does automagically. I wish people would stop using that bogus term. Apart from it being a stupid word, there's nothing "magic" about it, at all. What Jeff said was "automatically". The system (i.e. the whole thing, both client and server, in combination) sorts itself out, according to how it's designed. That's "automatic". There's no more *magic* involved here than there is in automatic transmission cars. It does what it does in the way that it's been engineered to work. Getting back to network manager, there's two basic ways you can expect it to sort out a network, that work fairly well at the moment: 1. If you have a DHCP server on the network, then *IT* will configure your network, "automatically". There's no client-side user-configuration involved with that, the server holds the configuration data. Yes, it is possible for a DHCP client to have overriding local configuration, but network manager doesn't seem to support it, and that sort of thing's a kludge to try and get around problems with badly set up DHCP servers, which would be better sorted out by reconfiguring the server. 2. If you have no DHCP server, then there's the zeroconf (aka bonjour or link-local) scheme, where each client assigns itself a unique IP, at random, after first checking that nobody else on the same LAN is already using that address. Again, there's no real client-side configuration for this, it's "automatic". Neither of those methods should really have users trying to diddle the network configuration manually. If you want to manually configure things, then stop using automatic configuration systems, completely. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list