On Thursday 14 August 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> > Telling us to move to another distro is not the >> >> correct answer. Also to get it from livna or freshrpms >> might be an option, but is it the best alternative? >> >> Ideally, we would see software patents going away but >> meanwhile we would >> want to see good support for non patent encumbered codecs >> and supporting >> them out of the box by using multimedia frameworks like >> gstreamer is the >> best alternative we have and that is what Fedora does. >> Third party repos >> makes it very easy to drop in the additional codecs as >> plugins. > >Here like I have mentioned in the same thread. A Fedora spin without (all > the free stuff(non patent encumbered ) that is provided by default) would > make sense and would free Fedora/Red Hat from litigation and would make it > easier to include the stuff that will make media players play everything > under the sun and will not get in the way when buiding these apps. > >For instance the totem that comes with Fedora, tries very hard to play > dvd's, but it can't because of the legal issues. Why not make a spin that > does not have Totem, gstreamer and all the free stuff so that users can > have the power to build these apps non-crippled? > >> As Jef noted, Firefox 3.1 will include native support for >> ogg (theora >> for video and vorbis for audio) which is also a pretty good >> move. If you >> disagree and want proprietary or patent encumbered codec >> support by >> default, Fedora probably isn't the right choice for >> you. > >IT is a good thing, but it will not support everything out there under the > sun :( > >That is why users are asking for, is it reasonable for end users to ask that > Fedora *not include all the free stuff* so that they can add the stuff that > they want and play everything that they want and of course, Fedora/Red Hat > will have no responsibility whatsoever if an end user gets sued, > Fedora/Redhat will be immune and should not/cannot be taken to court. > >> Rahul > >It is not a bad thing Rahul. I have mplayer and gecko-media player built > from source and I am doing fine. I am not complaining. It would make > sense to not have to ship crippled players *unless the users want those > only** > >Regards, > >Antonio I'm going to throw in a hearty second to that notion. In my attempts to get some, any damned thing to work here, it appears I now have a dep clash even with kino-1.2.0 from livna: [root@coyote ~]# kino kino: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavformat.so.51: undefined symbol: av_crc04C11DB7 I have removed the house cleaning lines from all the gmerlin stuffs and rebuilt them, of which that is a small part, and I will now see if I can nuke what must be a newer version of libavformat. Which isn't doing any good. Apparently kino is fixated on libavformat.so.51 and there seems to be no way that I can make it look at the locally built libavformat.so.52 located in /opt/gmerlin/lib, and I think is properly setup in /etc/ld.so.conf.d. Since the kino on livna is about 8 months old, version 1.2.0, is there a chance that 1.3.1 will hit livna before F8 is dead? It might be built against the later libraries. Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Air pollution is really making us pay through the nose. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
