Hi Jeff; I would appreciate the help getting things back to normal. On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 15:05 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > I missed the original thread detailing how you munched your NM > config..ill need to go back and read it. But quick answer for > now on how you can work around this until i understand how you > screwed up your NM config: > > > Okay I've caught up. > > NM does NOT make use of most of the information set through > system-config-network usage nor any information you manually set in > the ifcfg-* scripts. These are legacy network controls and there are > provided explicitly because the developers of NM know..full well..that > NM is not feature complete for all network needs. The are working on > it. > My gut feeling is you are primarily confused because you are expecting > NM to read the legacy network configs..and they don't. It's not clear > to me that you made any changes to NM's configs..i saw you attempting > to edit the legacy configs and resulting confusion. Yes, that is what happened. > > Before we get into specifics as to what you should or should not be > doing to configure to make NM useful for you again.. I need to > understand what your network topology and a succint and completely > english-with no numbers or urls-description of what you are trying to > do with your network set up. > For example... NM works perfectly fine for my very mundane network > topologies I have to work with. At home I have an off-the-shelf lan > router which acts as both dns and dhcp... NM works just fine there > wired and wireless. I even vpn into work no problems. At work I have > another dhcp server configuration to deal with, nothing fancy..things > just work..wired and wireless. > Your description fits mine. I have a three computer home LAN; 1 dual boot running Fedora 9 + WindowsXP; 2nd running Ubuntu + WindowsXP and a 3rd running WindowsXp. The house was purchased completely wired with cat5 leading to a central router in the basement which in turn is connected to a cable modem leading out of the house. > So I need to understand what inspired you to make manual changes at > all..before I can attempt to direct you on what to do. > What *inspired* me was that the time had come to learn about networking, from top to bottom; inside out. In the past, including the Fedora 9 installation, I understood only the rudiments of network setup and Internet connecting. I basically let whatever front ends that existed set the networks up for me. Anaconda seemed to have correctly installed NetworkManager for me when I did a fresh install of F9 A week or so ago I began to read various manuals, texts and tutorials, all of which dealt with a pre-NetworkManager world. The changes came about as a result of various experiments, tweaks and tries using the command line. This is in fact something I would like to do over the next few weeks until a understand more than just the basics. If this means NetworkManager is going to be in the way while I learn then I would like to temporarily remove it. I would like to end the learning process by re-introducing NetworkManager but only after learning the wheres and whyfors about its operation. > I'm also probably going to need to review several of your network > related scripts down in /etc/sysconfig > ifcfg-eth0: # nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp HWADDR=00:1a:92:e5:dc:47 ONBOOT=yes DHCP_HOSTNAME=CASE NM_CONTROLLED=no TYPE=Ethernet #DNS1=192.168.1.1 DEVICE=lo IPADDR=127.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0 NETWORK=127.0.0.0 # If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian, # you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example) BROADCAST=127.255.255.255 ONBOOT=yes NAME=loopback For various ifup-xx and ifdown-xx scripts let me know which ones you need. I will be happy to post any other information you need, including router data. > And no..you can't just remove NM..dont even try..you'll just get into > deep deep trouble. > > -jef > -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3 Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list