Hi; Last week I was messing around with my network and Internet connections and managed to break NeteworkManager. See thread "Messed up my ISP/Networkmanager connection !?" Aug 5. Since I couldn't get it fixed, I stopped and disabled the NetworkManager service. I now find that many of my gnome services are somehow dependant on it. Will 'yum remove NetworkMangaer' remove it or will I end up in dependency hell? I would prefer to fix it but I am a fish out of water when it comes to anymore than rudimentary network stuff. My current ~/.xsession-errors. I moved the previous file aside before logging out and back in so it is absolutely current. xrdb: colon missing on line 18, ignoring line SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/3565,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE-unix/3565 seahorse nautilus module initialized ** (nautilus:3654): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported Failure: Module initalization failed ** Message: failed to load session from /home/bill/.nautilus/saved-session-0E9JFU ** (nm-applet:3708): WARNING **: nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'WirelessHardwareEnabled' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files ** (nm-applet:3708): WARNING **: No connections defined evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Setting timeout for 47486 1218600000 1218552514 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Wed Aug 13 00:00:00 2008 evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Tue Aug 12 10:48:34 2008 CalDAV Eplugin starting up ... connect: Operation now in progress Unable to open desktop file /home/bill/Desktop/alacarte-made.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory ** (evolution:3669): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution --component=mail %s ** (evolution:3669): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error. (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files ** (nm-applet:3708): WARNING **: nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'ActiveConnections' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files BBDB spinning up... Shouldn't I be able to make commandline adjustments to network configurations (for ill or good) and still get NetworkManager to continue to operate, on my machine at least? If I made mistakes, shouldn't I, none-the-less, be able to correct them through the NetworkManager gui? -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3 Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list