Re: Fedora Desktop future- RedHat moves

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Francis Earl wrote:

It is the same as if Microsoft claimed that everything that linked to any of their libraries belonged to them or could only be distributed on their terms, even if the recipient already had their own copy of the library itself.
Microsoft doesn't give you access to their code, and doesn't expect full
access to yours.
Everyone can get their own access to the MS code, and they make no
claims on yours.
Thing is, GPL explicitly states that you retain copyrights, so you
dictate what you do with your code, so this is hardly an accurate
The FSF claims you can't distribute code you've written yourself under
your own terms if it links to a GPL'd library at runtime. My example
was exactly that scenario. I think that would get MS a lawsuit for
anticompetitive behavior, although Apple will probably get away with it
for a while with their iphone development kit.
I agree with the benefits which is why it is a shame that the code can't be used at all in many situations which require features under different restrictions.
The authors don't intend for it to be used that way. That is no
different for any other distro,
The *bsd's do not place such restrictions on their code, so don't claim
that everyone does.
OS X includes such code also. Microsoft
is the only IT company that doesn't utilize a single piece of GPL'd
There are some programs that can be feature-complete without including
patented technology or code under other restrictions. And some can't be.
If I stole your credit cards, transferred the money to my account, and
gave the card back, you wouldn't feel too good about that, would you?
How about if I justified it saying "you can still use the card", would
that make it ok?

No, code is money.
But using another copy of it does not take anything away that was there before. Try another scenario that doesn't take anything away to see if you can understand the real situation.
How is it any different?
How is software different than money? Making a copy can be legal and
takes away nothing from the original.
> What does that money represent? It represents
the time you spent at work. It represents your time and effort.
All of which you still have, regardless of what others do with other copies.

The authors of code written under the GPL want it used under the terms
of the GPL, they don't want some corporation stealing it and them never
getting any sort of notoriety or even a mention. In the Free Software
world, corporations CAN'T take your code, it is illegal.
Which is a bizarre thing to be concerned about because the only thing
they could possibly do to diminish the value of the original copy would
be to improve it so much that no one would want the original. As a
potential user of that improved version, I think that restriction is a
bad thing. And most bizarre of all is the notion that I can't obtain my
own copy of a GPL'd library, and someone else's code under their own
terms separately.
> If you find a
loophole, it is their right to ensure they cover it in the next
By a loophole, do you mean something that would allow improved versions?

  Les Mikesell
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