RE: fedora 8 hacked?

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How about installing a well configured firewall?

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> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:26:37 -0500
> From: rogerheflin@xxxxxxxxx
> To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: fedora 8 hacked?
> 
> tom lee wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Roger Heflin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Because, if you keep writing to a corrupted filesystem you can end up
>>> destroying the entire filesystem completely and lose *ALL* of your data and
>>> that is worse.
>> 
>> I agree with you. That is why I think the OS should better off with
>> reboot "showdown -r -F now"
>> instead of mounting as read-only. if there is potencial disk problem,
>> you need to run this command anyway no matter what problems you may
>> find before rebooting.
> 
> If you automatically reboot, you make the problem go away, but don't have any 
> details on what happened (cannot log) so it *WILL* happen again, automatically 
> reboot helps recover from the issue, but results in the loss of all details that 
> could be used to fix the issue.
> 
>> 
>>> The problem is that it may or may not crash before it destroys the
>>> filesystem competely, and if the OS is written robustly it should not crash
>>> just because the filesystem tables are corrupted (and Linux has done some
>>> testing with something that puts random data on the filesystem to make sure
>>> that it does not crash in those random corrupted data cases).
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From this perspective, I  think microsoft way of crasing is a better
>>>>>
>>>> design. at least you know some wrong right away and reboot the
>>>> computer automatically can get it fixed.
>>>>
>>> That was not their design, MS tends to try to work around errors rather than
>>> report the errors, so if then you get an error, it tries to cope and then
>>> you get a completely unrelated cryptic error that really tells you nothing.
>>> If if the crash said nothing useful to identify the failing component is it
>>> useless, you have no idea what to fix, just crashing tells someone nothing.
>>>
>>> If you had checked dmesg there should have been a clear error indicating
>>> what happened, if all of the partitions on the filesystem were RO then I
>>> would suspect that the disk itself quit talking, next time make sure to
>>> check dmesg and see what it says.
>> 
>> ok. so it is too late to check since I already rebooted the OS?
> 
> Yeap, too late, if the root filesystem goes RO it does not leave any tracks 
> except in dmesg.
> 
> I have seen the RO remount a number of times on lots of different HW/kernel/dist 
> combinations, it is can be any number of issues, from a real hardware issue, a 
> hardware driver issue, a filesystem driver issue, a bios issue, a main kernel 
> issue, ... it has a lot of causes.
> 
> If it happens again, type "dmesg" and if possible save it someplace that it not 
> readonly (type sync a few times to make sure it gets saved-or put it on a flash 
> driver and if you have another device verify you have it), and then reboot.
> 
>                                    Roger
> 
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