Re: Fedora Desktop future- RedHat moves

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On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 00:40 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 23:56 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >>>>> But that is the problem.  The folks with proprietary want to limit your
> >>>>> use to only the systems they have chosen to support, thus you can end up
> >>>>> with instruments or software that you have purchased that will not run
> >>>>> when the OS changes.
> >>>> That's hardly unique to proprietary software.  I once relied heavily on 
> >>>> CIPE as a VPN, but FC2 just dumped it with no replacement.  Yes, I could 
> >>>> have kept all the broken pieces of the source code...
> >>> ----
> >>> wasn't the cipe code dropped from the 2.6 kernel?
> >>>
> >> It was never part of the kernel  - just a victim of the ever-changing 
> >> Linux interfaces.  There were eventually patches to fix it, but fedora 
> >> never bothered to pick them up or even add openvpn which would have been 
> >> a usable replacement.
> > ----
> > been so long that I have forgotten the reason but I know that it was
> > simultaneous to migration to 2.6 kernel that occurred with FC2.
> > 
> > anyway...openvpn is indeed available...
> I guess I gave up looking for it after only a few years...
the impatience of youth...

As someone who used cipe way back when, I found it rather trivial to
build openvpn from source and install it so I wasn't much put out
anyway. Then of course, simultaneous with 2.6 kernels, we got openswan

Sometimes I think you just bitch for the sake of bitching.


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