Tim: >> Now, with these kids and their Windows box, they still get to experience >> something like that (even if applications are quick to start), with >> prolonged boot-ups, and all those reboots... :-p Alan: > "You have moved your mouse. To make change permanent please reboot." It's almost that bad... ;-) PS/2 mice would annoy me, if the computer started without noticing the mouse, you had to reboot to attach it. Didn't have to with the same hardware on Linux, though. I have a laptop that came with Vista, so I kept it, but usually ignore it, running Linux from another partition. Occasionally I'll boot it, it'll start, whinge that anti-virus is out of date, download an update, and whinge that I must reboot. I haven't even started to use the computer for my own purposes, yet, and I'm already having to reboot! I'm not sure whether if I keep on going, and not reboot, whether the anti-virus is running, but with old definitions, or isn't running. Well, I can see it's "running," I just don't know if it's "working," and I'm not going to test it. Everything's a bloody reboot... -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.