On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:40:29AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > Axel Thimm wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:51:56PM -0400, David Kramer wrote: >>> Axel Thimm wrote: >>>>> Does that mean it will prevent a kernel from getting installed if the >>>>> matching kmdls are not available? >>>> No, I didn't want a security update to be ladt off if it missed a >>>> kmdl. But if you install a kernel the moment it gets released (and >>>> therefore there are no kmdls yet available) once the kmdls are there >>>> yum-plugin-kmdl will make yum update get them for you. >>> .. but this is a Bad Thing when it comes to nvdia, because the next time >>> you reboot, X won't start for a few days. In fact, most kmdls are pretty >>> important for day-to-day operations. Clearly I can see how someone else >>> would want it to work the way you designed it, but that SO doesn't work >>> for me. >> >> Well, one can change the plugin to behave as you want, but indeed most >> users wanted to be asyncronous and not be held back by any third party >> in getting their vendor updates. >> >> If you want to experiment: In the loop where it checks whether a kmdl >> exists or not just add in the case of a failure for a lookup to unmark >> the kernel for installation. Or to add UPDATEDEFAULT=no to >> /etc/sysconfig/kernel before installing it. >> > > What you are discussing is exactly what dkms is supposed to correct. > > dkms(8) - Linux man page > http://linux.die.net/man/8/dkms > > dkms is a framework which allows kernel modules to be dynamically built for > each kernel on your system in a simplified and organized fashion. > > > Since I moved to dkms, I have not had any issues with nvidia drivers on any > machine. :) The drivers break every few kernel upgrades, whether it's dkms or kmdl doesn't matter. So you need to go back to the vendor and ask for a new copy of the packages anyway. And with kmdls you don't have to expose your system by installing compilers and a whole development suite just for creating dkms built modules. But dkms does have it's benefits, which is why kmdl2 [1] has dkmdls :) [1] Soon at an ATrpms mirror near you. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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