On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 09:26 -0700, don vogt wrote: > I was just about to send in a message with pretty much > this title, so I thought I might as well jump in here. > I just finished installing fc8 from the livecd. I was > using fc7, which I "yum upgraded" from fc4 to fc5 to > fc6 to fc7 with minimal problems. I have been using > Linux since slackware .8 (I believe. It came on 25 or > so floppies that I downloaded over a 1200 baud modem) > and I don't ever remember being so frustrated. > I have NetworkManager running at start-up and > NetworkManager-Dispatcher also. Why? I don't know. I > am connected through a DSL modem and eth0, and dhcp > which I previously managed with "system config > network" for a couple of years without problems. I > have no wireless. > My initial problem was that eth0 was not activated on > start-up, NetworkManager was starting eth0 and then > taking it down, according to /var/log/messages. > According to what I read about NetworkManager, it's > first task is to keep wired connections up. I tried I > tried to RTFM and found no useful information, I tried > google, and found no useful information I tried the FC > wiki, and found no useful information. > I tried to see the NetworkManager-info that the docs > mentioned and found out I don't have that. Finally, by > doing a "rpm -ql NetworkManager I found some "nm" > scripts to get it configured. I still had problems so > I tried to "yum remove NetworkManager and dispatcher" > and it, for dependency, removed pidgin, which I want > to message with my daughter. I used pidgin in fc7 > without NetworkManager very easily. So I tried "yum > install pidgin. Lo and behold it also installed > NetworkManager. > Now I have NetworkManager installed and running. > As a paranoid procedure, I usually disable eth0 when > I am not using the computer for a while and then turn > it on when I come back. Now, when I turn it on I get a > segfault in system-config-network > "Determining IP information for eth0 .. > /network-functions line 313 segnentation fault iplink > set dev $/up> dev/null 2&1" > > Sorry if I shouldn't have used this title. I just > needed to vent a little (a lot?) I am not quite sure > what to do next, remove NetworkManager (Gosh, I get > tired of typing that) somehow without removing pidgin, > > get a new IM program? ( I hate to do that because > configuring pidgin was problematic for me.) Set > Network Manager to not run as a service, turn off the > modem when I leave? > I am probably doing something dumb, it tends to come > with age, but I would appreciate any suggestions. ---- sure - shut off NetworkManager and turn on network chkconfig NetworkManager off chkconfig NetworkManagerDispatcher off chkconfig network on service NetworkManager stop service network restart at this point, system-config-network will work just like it always has. NetworkManager is useful when you are using wireless or just dhcp but 'network' service works fine with dhcp too. Craig
