On Tue March 25 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:49 PM, David Kramer <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Also, I got disgusted with the fights between livna and atrpms a long > > time ago, and now I don't have a single livna package on my system. > > There in lies your problem. Always go with Livna. > why? sorry, but this kind of statement always irritates me -- I explain: there was a time a few years back where Livna was having a hard time getting sufficient manpower to keep their kernel-modules coming in a timely fashion, and they were taking up to several days at one point to get them out - there was even a public appeal for volunteers to help at one point on one of these mail-lists I was using freshrpms selectively at that time, because it provided Cinelerra and all the packages that were needed for dependencies - and Livna did not There were also issues with the mplayer that Livna was providing in this time-frame Somewhere along the way, someone on this list posted about the freshrpms nvidia driver and the dkms script; I decided to try it. I post the results of that experiment elsewhere in this thread So, at some point, in that time-frame, I switched to freshrpms and disabled Livna, and for some years, I have always gone with freshrpms BUT, I don't advocate that anyone always go with anything in this regard. It depends on your needs, and the mix of packages you depend on. I think the advice that you do NOT keep both Livna AND the sourceforge repos enabled all the time is still sound advice, I think -- though I don't monitor these things closely enough to say that with absolute authority, I still keep hearing that you can still get into dependency problems keeping both enabled There is still the occasional time when I enable Livna to get a specific package for some very specific reason - I never run a general update with it enabled, though. -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA