Re: Fedora Makes a Terrible Server?

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Tim Alberts wrote:

Unfortunately, everything that is beneficial about Fedora comes with the price of 'not quite as well tested' status as RedHat or CentOS.

Honestly I feel like a backstabber by using CentOS because I've been with Fedora since before Fedora (RedHat 5.1 was my first Linux experience), and using CentOS is reaping the benefits with no contribution.

If you go back that far, you should realize that fedora is approximately like the old RH X.0 releases (X from 4 to 7) and Centos is like the old RH X.2 or X.3 releases (free download of the tested and more stable releases). The numbering scheme is just different now. The for-pay-only RHEL is the part that diverged from the old scheme.
Yeah there are different groups filling the roles all along the life-cycle of each release version. You could even say that CentOS provides what FedoraLegacy intended to provide.
Not really the point of what I'm saying though...

The point I was trying to make was that in the old days when RH made its name by getting a community of users involved, the users who tested the X.0 versions and reported the problems that made the fixes possible were eventually given access to the X.2/X.3 versions containing those fixes. Fedora/RH no longer works that way. The community putting up with the X.0 problems never gets a stable update unless they switch to Centos. The next fedora release will be like the old next X.0's were.

Again my question, how can Fedora produce a better tested product?

Fedora has the option of rebranding the Centos packages for a long-term supported version or building their own similar version from the RHEL sources. I think it would have been trivial to slipstream the FC1 updates to a copy of the Centos 3.x update repro, the FC3 -> Centos4, and FC6 ->Centos5. In fact I think there are people who have done that with yum even though it wasn't planned to work.

The way it is, it's dis-respectful to the Fedora project for people to post things like:

http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2008/02/11/fedora-makes-a-terrible-server/

because it is the work of the Fedora Project and the users who end up testing the software and suffering through software bugs and poorly packaged projects.

I don't think so. Post something on the fedora developers site about focusing on stability and you'll find no one is interested. In fact they will point out their objectives: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives are to stay on the leading edge and close to upstream development instead. It is not disrespectful to say that they are meeting their objectives.

CentOS and RedHat would be no where near as stable without Fedora.

No one says they would - but that doesn't make fedora a reasonable server platform.

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  Les Mikesell
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