On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 10:36 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > So, you probably want to run system-config-network and disable the > device there. You probably also want to do this: > > service wpa_supplicant stop > chkconfig wpa_supplicant off > > And for my personal tastes: > > chkconfig NetworkManager on I've only had the occasional play with wireless, as I only have one thing with wireless (my laptop). It's only when I go walkies with it that I can try it out. Quite some time ago I learn that you either run the network service *or* the network manager service, but not both at the same time. But this is the first time I've come across being told to turn off the wpa_supplicant service. When I was playing with it, it took a bit of jiggery pokery to get a network running - with stopping and restarting the wpa_supplicant service, and fiddling around elsewhere. Since I don't have wireless here, and I found network manager brought up the network too late (e.g. NTP wasn't connecting, and that holds up the boot sequence), I've left it off and went along with using the network service, by itself. I would like to get this all working automatically, and without pain. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.